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04/07/2008 7:04 PM Alert 

I missed the boat on this, but in early January, Ryan and the 3 stooges listed some bests and worsts from the show's history. Paula named Kat as the singer with the most disappointing career.  I wonder if she meant that "Kat blew her chance," or that "Kat was a victim of bad luck?"

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-01-10-idol-reflections_N.htm

USA TODAY asked Idol judges Simon Cowell, Randy Jackson and Paula Abdul, plus host Ryan Seacrest, to identify some of the highlights and lowlights of the show to date:

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Singer with most disappointing career: 
Simon & Ryan: Tamyra Gray
Paula: Katharine McPhee

Singer with most surprising level of success:
Simon & Ryan: Chris Daughtry

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04/09/2008 10:25 PM Alert 

I think Paula was considering Kat's first CD sales compared with her potential sales. Obviously Paula sees Kat as a potential multi-platinum superstar, just as we do!  On the other hand, it's almost an insult to Daughtry to be considerered as having the most surprising level of success. I wonder what they were expecting?


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04/09/2008 10:28 PM Alert 

Paula thought Katharine had alot of potential, but she tought her cd sales weren't what they turned out to be. She thought that was unfortuante. Simon and Ryan also thought Tamyra was going to be a huge success, but they were disappointed that it didn't work out.

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04/10/2008 8:52 AM Alert 
This remark from Paula,the most patronizing judge on the planet,really ticks me off!!
Yeah...it's the old"blame the victim"thing: the music biz version!Like it's Kat's fault that RCA chose not to promote her CD adequately!It's Kat's fault that RCA couldn't spring for some bucks to even give her a live band on last summer's tour.Pure,unadulterated bull,Paula!
Why make it sound like an artist's career has tanked when it hasn't?Kat's career is going great...she probably has more irons in the fire than any other Idol in history!!
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04/10/2008 9:28 AM Alert 

So why isn't Taylor Hicks listed in the most disappointing? He won?


Some people come into our lives and quickly go.Others stay for a while and leave footprints on our hearts and we are never the same. That my friends is Katharine McPhee
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04/10/2008 11:59 AM Alert 

I think Paula should look back on her own career, which for me ranks about the same as Milli Vanilli. She should just shut her big mouth, nobody really wants her opinion. Katharine's first album failure is due to the bonheads at Sony records. Most of the blame should fall on Clive Davis. She was given material that had no chance to succeed in today's pop market. We should all reserve judgement until we hear what Katharine and David Foster are producing. David is a perfectionist and if he believes that Katharine is a star, then lookout world Katharine will take the world be storm.

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04/10/2008 2:39 PM Alert 
Paula said that only because she was excited for Kat's future. I think it shows that she wanted her to do well. She wouldn't have been disappointed otherwise.


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04/10/2008 4:16 PM Alert 

Yeah, I'm thinking (or hoping) that Paula was being charitable there and wasn't ripping Kat. I'd agree that Paula and/or the other 2 panelists need to go. I wish the show would bring in Mark Holden, who just left the Australian Idol judging panel but would be an improvement over Randy, Paula, and Simon. From what I've seen, he offers insightful analysis, and while he's not afraid to mix it up with the contestants, I don't feel he's gratuitous or unfair.

As for the most surprising success, I'd go with Kellie Pickler or country boys Bucky and Phil, who all bombed in Idol but get decent play on the country airwaves.

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04/10/2008 4:51 PM Alert 

This is an old article but...at first glance it's easy to get upset by that but when you think about it...all that means is that Paula thought Katharine would do better than she has so far.  Didn't we all?  Now that's purely based on album sales of course.  We all know she's got a lot of other things going for her right now.  Certainly a lot more than the guy that finished ahead of her in Season 5.  Although he's doing better than anyone would give him credit for.  Chris Daughtry and to a smaller extent, Kellie Pickler has made Taylor & Katharine's lesser successes (at least in music on Kat's part) look worse.

I'm not sure why they are so surprised about Chris.  I always thought he'd be the most successful of that bunch when it came to record sales.  Bucky is the one that's surprised me the most.  For him to sell 300,000 records is stunning to me.  But it's a testament to how many people by country records.


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04/11/2008 9:17 AM Alert 
Just to remind you guys of the Stooge Simon's nasty,mean-spirited remark(below) about Kat.
Sure,he doesn't care much.....that's an understatement.He only seems to care about a singer in terms of money and profits receivable....such as his investment in Leona Lewis!!
And why have the "ending up on Broadway" prediction sound like community service or being in the pits and drinking wine out of a bottle?So many Idols(Fantasia,Dianna DeGarmo,Mandisa and now Clay)have enhanced their careers by their theater stints!
Randy is the only judge with class,savvy and consistancy.

"Didn't care much about Katharine McPhee. I don't think she was a credible recording artist. Katharine will end up on Broadway."

-- skewering season 5's runner-up to Extra
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04/11/2008 9:28 AM Alert 
Well he must have thought she was credible at her audition. What else does current mean? Sometimes I think Moses parted his hair a little too deep and cut into the gray matter, to borrow from Jimmy Kimmel.

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04/11/2008 1:12 PM Alert 
paula is a ----, have you ever really looked at her on a dlp set, she is homely, and she knows it, she is always putting down the girls, and loving the guys, she will be an old maid soon, with all that makeup on, just can't stand her, wish randy would slap her in the mouth!
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04/11/2008 2:50 PM Alert 

I don't think I would be slapping Randy on the back anytime soon either. If you watched the Larry King show the other night when all three (Randy, Paula and Simon) were on discussing AI, Larry King asked if America got it right about the winners of all the seasons. Randy said he thought America got it right each season when Simon interrupted and disagreed saying "what about season 5?" and Randy responded who won season 5. When Simon answered Taylor Hicks, Randy said "well, do you remember who the runner-up was?"  My blood was starting to boil.

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04/11/2008 3:50 PM Alert 
Hi People,
Just got home from Dr# 3 and i am so happy to read all of the _Venting_____
I'm with all of you.
I posted goldenpub's review the other day about Larry Kings Show,and my blood pressure went thru the
roof
Simon,taking his time answering Randy's question,and Randy jumping in and saying to Simon
"You Don't Remember"
Last Night's Jordan Sparks moment was well deserved,but the award's were another example of
the lust for the dollar.Alicia's tour will be starting soon,and Jordan will be opening for her.Watch the Promo$$
As i have said before,the burn out rate amongst the clone's is very high.

I have a record and album collection dating back to the early fifties.Over 5,000.
Listing to all of the artists that performed "Over The Rainbow"including the one and only
Judy Garland-No one come's close to Katharine's Version and Performance.
That is a song that was written for emotion's to spill out.
Listing to Jason perform {what's his name's version with the 'Uke]made my stomach turn and also D Foster's.
Then adding to the insult,Paula say's"Perfect Song"-{which mean's what?}
Simon remark's"Fantastic"_{What planet was he on}
Randy say's that was "Hot,Hot,_{non committal like Paula}
Did that version really jump out and Grab anyone like it was written to do?
The final straw was last night.Voting Michael Johns off.

We are so lucky to Have Katharine and she make's proud every day with just her Smile alone.

Keep up the Venting people,it is good for the Soul



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04/12/2008 3:08 PM Alert 
"Keep up the Venting people,it is good for the Soul"

I don't think lack of venting is going to be a problem here.

I guess one good thing about being temporarily without cable TV is missing that Larry King interview. Kat probably has a hard time remembering Randy too, given how blase' she was about listening to their Real Love collaboration.
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04/12/2008 6:57 PM Alert 

OK...here's how I recently vented! On Friday (04/11), on the last, new hour of the Today show with Hoda Kopi and Kathy Lee Gifford, they were discussing this very same subject...although it was because of the shocking elimination of Michael Johns (too bad, I liked him). I was waiting to see what would be said and sure enough, Kathy Lee said "and we haven't heard anything about Katharine McPhee".

Yes, Goody, my blood pressure went up considerably and I headed immediately to my keyboard to vent! I wrote to The Today Show and in particular, to Kathy Lee. I did my best to remember all of the things Katharine has done since her Idol days. I know I must have forgotten something, given the state I was in! But, I did fill her in on the House Bunny and of course, the album and appearances with David Foster. I even chided her a bit by saying "I don't have to tell you who David Foster is, do I?"

I also mentioned her Neutrogena and Big Sexy Hair endorsements and also McPhee Outreach.

I am not holding my breath for any kind of response from them, but as you say, venting is good!??!!

 

 

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04/12/2008 7:05 PM Alert 
Just a short "foot-note" to my last post. Jason Castro's version of "Over the Rainbow" rang a bell in my memory bank. I believe it was used at the very end of the movie "50 First Dates" with Drew Barrymore and Adam Sandler. I wasn't wild about Jason's emotion free version on AI, but, I have to say, it did fit in well with the movie. Maybe, it's because it was filmed in Hawaii...Kauai, to be exact, so the ukelele was appropriate!
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04/12/2008 8:56 PM Alert 
Moms,You're o'kay in my book.
We must vent at a low boiling point.I want to be around long enough to see the show next month,
and be able to report back to every one.
I was really shook up at Jason's version,it caught me off guard.You are usually on target with your great memory.That's one movie i missed.Every time i hear a uke it reminds me of Tiny Tim and Miss Vicki and Johnny Carson.Those show's are priceless.
Kathy Lee is in the same orbit as Simon so kudos to you on your swift reaction to her.I'm sure glad i missed
that show because my blood pressure would have gone off the charts.

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04/12/2008 9:07 PM Alert 
He reminded me of Tiny Tim the guy tip toeing through the tulips. Paula acts like she is on some mind altering drug. I never heard of Randy Jackson before Idol and Jimmy Kimmel said all there is to say about Simon.

They never were nice to Katharine from the get go because they have NO CLASS. But Katharine has more class in her little finger than all three of them put together. Paula can't even use the English language correctly, Randy only knows the word dwag and Simon is just too full of himself. I find them all amusing and watch the show just to get a good laugh. They are better than what the show is suppose to be about.

One thing that has amazed me this year is how these kids speak up to them.
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04/12/2008 10:35 PM Alert 
I had my sister over, and her new boyfried, from oregon, her husband of 28 yrs passed away, ron my sister's boyfriend has never saw idol, or heard of kat, I palyed the clip, from jcpenny, swor, he said she gave him goose bums, what can I say! he said Ithink you love her, I said I do, how many people out there love kat, she is beautiful in and out, that's why people diss her!
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04/13/2008 9:20 AM Alert 
Pretty soon,the naysayers with their impaired recollections of the brilliant Katharine....will have their synapses jarred as Kat's movie career takes off!Guess these forgetful people didn't see Kat performing in front of the president of the United States;HELLO!
Kat's first film,Crazy is finally being released prior to her second,The House Bunny.She has apparently signed on to a third;The Storyteller!
Hopefully,Kat will do the talk show circuit to promote THB!
And check out those BSH and Neutrogena ads!
Real Love is getting radio play and is climbing some charts.
Then,we'll have Kat in the company of some of music's superstars in Vegas/PBS/dvd/cd!
My prediction....Kat will eventually be the most diversified and successful Idol in history!It's not all about cd sales.
Slow and steady wins the race,sports fans!
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04/13/2008 9:30 AM Alert 
At least Randy recorded her and is promoting the song, so that says something, and every time he talked about the album he had something good to say ("an amazing singer") so I'm not going to beat Randy over the head with his own guitar just yet. I missed that part of LK channel surfing so I guess I only get to have half an opinion about it.

But I do think it's good to let people know what she's been up to in the past two years. Who knows what effect a single e-mail has? Remember the butterfly effect... and that old scifi story about the guy who time travels, steps off the path, crushes one tiny insect, and returns to an entirely different world. I know, but don't underestimate the effect of the sound of one voice. All it has to do is reach the right ear, somewhere. You never know, and it feels good to "vent" so go for it! (within reason of course)

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04/13/2008 10:20 AM Alert 
Keefir,
You are alway's on the money.

Groucho,You are almost alway's on the money{not bad}
Randy is in Katharine's corner and know's her talent and potential.
On Larry King i believe he was trying to make Simon look stupid and was Q'd to move on.
We all must remember,Randy has to work along side Simon and we don't.Randy is know one's fool.
On the subject of "Venting"
We here in Katharine land,have top priority.
The dissing and bashing has been going on for over two year's and our Katharine can still hold her head up
with dignity and pride.
I wish that everyone who watched the AI mentor show with Dolly Parton,can recall their memory bank.
Dolly was making a statement from her own experiences early in her rise to stardom.
I believe she was trying to bring up the point of-

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04/13/2008 10:20 AM Alert 

Keefir,
You are alway's on the money.

Groucho,You are almost alway's on the money{not bad}
Randy is in Katharine's corner and know's her talent and potential.
On Larry King i believe he was trying to make Simon look stupid and was Q'd to move on.
We all must remember,Randy has to work along side Simon and we don't.Randy is know one's fool.
On the subject of "Venting"
We here in Katharine land,have top priority.
The dissing and bashing has been going on for over two year's and our Katharine can still hold her head up
with dignity and pride.
I wish that everyone who watched the AI mentor show with Dolly Parton,can recall their memory bank.
Dolly was making a statement from her own experiences early in her rise to stardom.
I believe she was trying to bring up the point of-

What ever you do,make sure it's something you really believe in,and you won't owe anyone anything .Alway's keep your morals high,and you will alway's be able to "Walk Tall"

Katharine McPhee can do that every day,we all should be proud of her.

 

 

 


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04/13/2008 10:33 AM Alert 
In Larry King, when Simon disagreed with Randy's opinion that so far all AI winners deserved to win, Simon picked Taylor Hicks was an example. Randy followed up by asking who the runner up was, insinuating that she can't be better than Taylor Hicks. And Simon just couldn't remember