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05/09/2007 2:56 AM	Alert
I mean her cd is great it has no filler i dont understand why she isnt racking up in sales like daughtry none of her songs sound similar and her cd has many hits her cd is better than 99% of the crap like avril ruling the charts and im sick of idol fans putting down her sales especially bitter elliott and taylor fans hopefully with love story she gets the sales and noteriety she desserves

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05/09/2007 7:41 AM	Alert
I COULDN'T AGREE ANY BETTER!!! WITH KAT'S NEW RELEASE ON MAY 22 WITH "LOVE STORY" SALES WILL DEFINETLY SOAR.

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05/09/2007 7:56 AM	Alert
Posted By Radiohead on 05/09/2007 2:56 AM I mean her cd is great it has no filler i dont understand why she isnt racking up in sales like daughtry none of her songs sound similar and her cd has many hits her cd is better than 99% of the crap like avril ruling the charts and im sick of idol fans putting down her sales especially bitter elliott and taylor fans hopefully with love story she gets the sales and noteriety she desserves i couldn't agree more.. i have no idea what's wrong with people

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05/09/2007 8:39 AM	Alert
Due to lack of voting for Kat and requesting on the radio stations is one of the major reasons her single and album have fallen. If only ALL Kat fans would vote at VH1, request her on there local radio stations, and on the top 40 request lines , you would see an increase in SALES

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05/09/2007 9:03 AM	Alert
I for one despair that her CD sales is falling far short of Chris, and even short of Kellie Pickler. Kellie Pickler has even been nominated for the best new artist. I would be interested to know what the theories are. Is it because her CD is out of character with what people associate her during the AI5 season? Note that her SOTR single is still going on strong. Chris' and Kellie's CDs are consistent with their persona in AI5. Or is it the contents of her CD are, in comparison to Chris' and past idols like Carrie and Kelly C, a bit on the shallow side. Chris' songs have emotion and are edgy. Or is it Kat is in a crowded genre, competing with Beyonce and the like, and even Kelly Clarkson? Chris, at the moment, has no direct competition. What should her next CD be? I don't have the answer. What are your opinions?

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05/09/2007 9:19 AM	Alert
I think the release date has been moved back a week. Some are speculating that could mean she's returning to Idol at the finale, which will precede LS going for adds at radio stations. You're asking the question we all ask. I've heard it said that if you do a decent country flavored album you've got a leg up to start with. Don't ask me to dissect that. I can't. Add Carrie's voice and you've got a multi-platinum album. Some say the same thing about Rock. And Kelly C. is almost in a class by herself. And from what I've heard, there are enough Claymates to be their own zip code. I think Katharine made it through with a hard core of die-hards like us plus an enormous boost from having Cowell give her the perfect song, which she knew exactly what to do with and did it to perfection, which got people who were then the kind of casual watcher/voter I am this year up off their butts and grabbing their phones because they were just awed by what should be in anyone's top ten Idol performances. Then damned if she didn't up and do it again the following week. Then she performed that song for the next few months until it became her signature, like it or not. Then came the album, and there was no OTR, and the sound that got pushed was going off in a whole new direction. I think maybe the world is waiting to hear something else that will wow them the way Rainbow did and they just haven't heard it yet. I can almost hear Randy whispering in my ear "Song choice, song choice, song choice." Where's that magical combination that will grab people who are just passing by and make them stop and say "Wow, what's that?" That's why we've been speculating to the point of agony over what the next single would be, and we'll probably do it again with the next one. Just my opinion, but to me, the strongest songs on the album are precisely the ones that won't get major pop airplay because they're not that kind of song. So to hit that market, they have to lead with their left. You fight with the army you've got. Katharine may call the album "cohesive" but I think it encompasses a variety of styles. (She just likes a llot of different things, so it may feel that way to her.) Kellie may be singing about her mother in one and her red high heels in another, but they're all somehow country. Katharine's seem to span genres--is it pop, r&b, what? Some of the ballads are as traditional as you could want, or I could want, anyway. Some sound more like the jazz/r&b station that wakes me up every morning. Some tracks sound like they belong on stations I only listen to so I can figure out what the other half is up to. Maybe that makes it harder to figure out what to push, and to whom.

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05/09/2007 9:36 AM	Alert
We all think Katharine's album is great, and it is, but I believe it's the way chart positions are calculated each week. Every week, every album is in a new competition for who sells more. For example, this week, Barbra Streisand and Michael Buble both released albums and so many people will buy those albums, it takes away from the ones that have been on the market for months. You can't really compare Kat with Kellie Pickler and Chris Daughtry, as they are in 3 distinct genres. Katharine IS competing with the likes of Beyonce, Gwen Stefani, Nellie Furtado, etc. There aren't that many new country artists, so Kellie gets the nod. Carrie Underwood is no longer new. IMO, Katharine needs that ONE song to catapult her up the charts and make her a name that people will automatically buy when a new unit is released (be it single or album) and that song I personally believe is not on this debut album. For the next album, I believe she should record some covers with depth, maybe something on the jazzy/bluesy side, something that showcases her supurb vocal abilities and I firmly believe that instead of expending so much in financial resources hiring iconic producers, hire quality producers and spend more of the budget on marketing and promotion. It is also always helpful to have her tour, whether it's in support of somebody or by herself in smaller venues. Kellie, Daughtry and even Taylor reaped huge benefits from their respective tours. I'm not sure I have the answer, but those are my opinions.

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05/09/2007 9:41 AM	Alert
seems to me there are several factors and some were covered above. many dismiss the impact of "time of year" that the cd was released. i believe that this is the principle reason her cd, as a new artist, is not yet near the 500k mark. when i researched last year's record sales, for the week that chris's cd was released the total weekly sales for the top 50 on the HDD charts was the highest sales week for the entire year. Obvious reason, thanksgiving and christmas. Chris' high sales for that week probably came about form his large fan base buying large multiples of his cd. Many went for gifts. this high sale created a substantial penetration into his genre's market, which some contend will purchase cd's over downloading. With such a quality cd and the initial week high sales, the geometric increase in subsequent weekly sales was more easily obtained especially in the three weeks prior to christmas. the upshot of all this for Kat is that her climb in sales will rise at a slower rate until it reaches the market penetration that triggers acceptance of her in her genre and the sales move at a steeper rate. Have patience. (this is another theory)

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05/09/2007 9:54 AM	Alert
KAT NEEDS TO SHOW OFF THAT BEAUTIFUL VOICE, NEXT ALBUM SPORTS FANS!

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05/09/2007 9:59 AM	Alert
I'm not very concerned about her album sales at this point, she has had one single (it went TOP40 but had moderately wide radio play for only a couple of weeks) so far and most people, even if they love the song are not going to purchase a $10 album for it. Over It has sold 400,000+ digital downloads and the way I see it that is almost a half million potential customers for both the next single and eventually the album. These are people who know who Katharine McPhee is and pay for their music (rather than steal it, as is too common these days) and are likely go buy subsequent singles. So, her sales aren't better because 1. Over It was not a particularly great song. Nice sound, decent performer but not one to catch fire. 2. Katharine is a first time artist, too many "sure things" out there to buy a CD from an Idol alum. Those Bo Bice and John Paul Lewis beverage coasters are quite enough. 3. Most people out in radio land don't even know and have never heard a Katharine McPhee song. Saturation play of Over It was on very few stations in this country.

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05/09/2007 10:23 AM	Alert
The short answer here is very simple: Kat's sales are good for a new artist. Period. Like it or not, Kat is a new artist. She's changed her image, and she's changed her style from what people knew and expected. So she's almost starting from scratch with the public. Yeah, she's got name recognition. But it's the wrong name recognition! People hear her name and think of the cute Rainbow Girl nextdoor. Not the sexy, sultry, pop/r&b phenom. I heard a radio show the other week making fun of Kat being voted #2 most beautiful on the People list, and it was obvious from the banter that they were picturing that Rainbow Girl of 2006, not the sleek new 2007 model. Carrie delivered what she promised on AI, so did Chris, Kellie and Taylor. So people knew what they were getting, for better or worse. For Kat, it'll take some time and a few hits to build a new fanbase. It would help a bunch to have a megahit smash single, but I'm afraid that song isn't on her album. It's a really good album, with no filler, but it's more like 12 Top 10-20 singles than one or two #1s and a bunch of dreck.

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05/09/2007 11:30 AM	Alert
Posted By bcollan on 05/09/2007 10:23 AM The short answer here is very simple: Kat's sales are good for a new artist. Period. Like it or not, Kat is a new artist. She's changed her image, and she's changed her style from what people knew and expected. So she's almost starting from scratch with the public. Yeah, she's got name recognition. But it's the wrong name recognition! People hear her name and think of the cute Rainbow Girl nextdoor. Not the sexy, sultry, pop/r&b phenom. I heard a radio show the other week making fun of Kat being voted #2 most beautiful on the People list, and it was obvious from the banter that they were picturing that Rainbow Girl of 2006, not the sleek new 2007 model. Carrie delivered what she promised on AI, so did Chris, Kellie and Taylor. So people knew what they were getting, for better or worse. For Kat, it'll take some time and a few hits to build a new fanbase. It would help a bunch to have a megahit smash single, but I'm afraid that song isn't on her album. It's a really good album, with no filler, but it's more like 12 Top 10-20 singles than one or two #1s and a bunch of dreck. Couldn't agree more!! That's what on my head. People just needs more Songs from her, to show off Her Personality which is very different from what she's been on AI.. She's a Brand New Artist! Totally New. Chris and Kellie? People have known their genre from idol, so, they did it better as Newcomers. Besides, Rock and Country have diehard listeners.

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05/09/2007 12:29 PM	Alert
"Over It" wasn't a good first single choice. Maybe second or third, with "Love Story" being first. I always said "Over It" sounds like stuff JoJo has already done. The lyrics weren't orginal either. Hence, "Over It" is only a moderate hit that will be forgotten by the non-Kat fans. I think "Love Story" will become a smash and will boost her sales. As for Elliott fans, what are the complaining about? "Wait For You" is really picking up steam (up to #29 on Top 40) on radio, and his CD sales broke a record for first week sales by an indy artist. He'll definitely sell more than Taylor. But don't people realize the show has been over for almost a year????? It's no longer a competition between just them; they're competing against everyone artist out there. Also, why are you bashing other artists. People have different tastes in music. Get "over it"... :-)

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05/09/2007 3:28 PM	Alert
I believe we are the verge of some major changes in the music industry, and like it or not, record company executives are going to have to come to acceptance. People now have the option to just buy that one song and they don't need to buy the whole album anymore. Not only are weekly CD sales down, by drastic numbers, but take a look at the latest box office numbers too (except Spiderman), I don't think I ever recall the top movie of the week only grossing $9 million. The digital download of both music and on-demand movies, etc. has changed the industry BIG TIME. As Greg likes to say "The Suits" don't like it, but they're going to need to come up with new ways to adapt to the evolving changes and give the consumers what they want. So, in the future, artists may be putting out CDs that only include 5-6 songs, hoping 2-3 could be hit singles; and banking on at least one song to be a mega-hit and a popular download. For the time being, we just have to sit back and ride with the changes. Also, keep the McPhaith a lot of the Kat fans said her CD would be a slow-build and it'll take awhile for people to discover Kat's music. Right now we all just need to practice patience and stay loyal, and continue promoting Kat to potentially new fans.

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05/09/2007 3:54 PM	Alert
All of the comments thus far are very good, but the bottom line still remains that the KAT fanbase MUST keep requesting her at ALL radio stations, and vote at VH1 and other Kat voting functions.This is what will keep Katharine on the charts and the mediabase list and improve her album and single sales.So let's see the devoted KAt fans get to work

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05/09/2007 4:46 PM	Alert
Posted By Amanda on 05/09/2007 3:54 PM All of the comments thus far are very good, but the bottom line still remains that the KAT fanbase MUST keep requesting her at ALL radio stations, and vote at VH1 and other Kat voting functions.This is what will keep Katharine on the charts and the mediabase list and improve her album and single sales.So let's see the devoted KAt fans get to work Well...Kat's been at the top of VH1 & TRL...nevermind. I think the "problem" is a few things. I think I'll start a different thread about Over It as single #1 but... Don't compare Kellie Pickler's sales to Katharine. One, that CD has been out for three more months than Kat's plus it got the entire Thanksgiving/Christmas rush. Katharine's sales are really no worse than any of the Idols this year except for Daughtry when you put it into context. The problem for Katharine's sales are partially because she couldn't get the CD out by that November 28th date she had scheduled initially. If she gets it out then, she's already above 500,000 in the sales right now. I'm certain of that. She released her CD in the dead of winter when only Norah Jones could sell anything. You almost wish once they realized she couldn't get it out by say Dec 5th at the latest, they should have just gone back to the recording studio and found a few of those "Me/Mary Jane" songs I think Kat wanted. Then released it in March or something like that. A normal artist would be allowed to do that. Someone coming off Idol needs to get the CD out NOW!

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