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09/08/2006 9:56 PM Alert 

Simon Cowell will turn on a contestant from week to week.  Though other than the terrible Whitney Houston remark  for which he later apologized and the Elvis show and just afterward when he said that Katharine should be voted off the show, most of his comments for Katharine were very complimentary. He highly praised God Bless,Think, Watch over me, "you looked like a returning pro", and SOTR saying it was the best number on the show this season twice.  He also gave her this song that helped her into the final two though Katharine was always good enough to make it on her own.

Deep down it seems that he did realize Katharine belonged in the final and had tremendous potential to develop into the star that she is now, and realized how truly astounding it is that she can take a rendition of established entertainers such as Aretha Franklin, Judy Garland, Ella Fitzgerald, George Gershwin and even Whitney Houston (sorry Randy) and make it seem as if it is her own song. 

Yes, Katharine does make other performers look like good amateurs, and that is one of the many reasons why we find her to be an incredible stage performer and skilled vocalist.

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09/08/2006 10:19 PM Alert 
That was my favorite quote by Simon, and something I've never heard him say of any other Idol contestant, ever. I've always felt that Simon recognized Kat for what she is ( and can become), but I also think he underestimated the taste of the American public, hence his prediction of a final 6 without Kat. Even his IHN remarks weren't as bad as we tend to think them to be. After all, he just said that Kat wasn't as good as Whitney...one of the best singers of the last 50 years. Yes, he said it with the usual Cowell distainful flair, and I was as put off as anyone at the time, but if you think about it, he said much worse to EVERY contestant at one point or another, including his self proclaimed favorite Chris.

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09/09/2006 2:19 AM Alert 
I agree...this was one of my favorite Simon quotes as well. As far as his feelings toward Katharine, I truly feel that Simon is the only person involved with American Idol that gave "accurate" comments to Katharine, accurate meaning what he truly felt. I don't believe that at any pont in the show he was negative when he didn't feel he should have been. And, when he was, he apologized, so harm done, because we voted like crazy!

You can see that from comments like this one and his brilliance in choosing SOTR for Katharine. Throughout the whole competition, Simon was the only one who was true to Kat because he gave her what she needed and that was his whole hearted opinion, not comments to get ratings.

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09/09/2006 12:12 PM Alert 
Other than he wanted a guy to win...I agree. Simon, for the most part, speaks his mind, but I DO think this year the producers desire to have a male winner clouded some of his "feedback".
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09/09/2006 1:30 PM Alert 
Simon is self serving. He will say things just to make himself look good. You know why he apologized for IHN? Because Kat got the most votes that night and he knew he was wrong for judging her harshly so to save face, he says "after watching it on replay, I owe Katharine an apology". Too self seving if you ask me.

I am sorry but I am still very hurt with not only Simon but the other two judges as well. I don't know if I will ever like them again. This year, they have just been a bunch of punks. I watch AI not because of them but because of the talent that I comes from the show. I was not even compelled to vote for anyone this year until Kat's bottom 3.

Sorry for blabbing along...but my point is, as much as Simon's comments of Kat sounds good, and even though he may mean it, I still think he says it because he thinks it will serve him right in the end. My hat will stay in my head and won't come off for Simon.
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09/09/2006 1:55 PM Alert 
Posted By winnpoober on 09/09/2006 1:30 PM
Simon is self serving. He will say things just to make himself look good. You know why he apologized for IHN? Because Kat got the most votes that night and he knew he was wrong for judging her harshly so to save face, he says "after watching it on replay, I owe Katharine an apology". Too self seving if you ask me.

I am sorry but I am still very hurt with not only Simon but the other two judges as well. I don't know if I will ever like them again. This year, they have just been a bunch of punks. I watch AI not because of them but because of the talent that I comes from the show. I was not even compelled to vote for anyone this year until Kat's bottom 3.

Sorry for blabbing along...but my point is, as much as Simon's comments of Kat sounds good, and even though he may mean it, I still think he says it because he thinks it will serve him right in the end. My hat will stay in my head and won't come off for Simon.



I guess I half way agree with you! The judges and producers really made me mad, but i feel like Simon doesn't do anything for ratings...maybe he does, I don't know.

All I know is, without Simon, there would be no SOTR, so we have to give him some due props!


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09/09/2006 1:58 PM Alert 
After all is said and done, I think we probably owe Simon for the fact that K. got into the top two (and possibly a lot more, but that was the Biggie). He couldn't have done anything more or better than giving her just the absoslutely perfect song to sing--IF she could pull it off. He wasn't handing her a win, he was handing her the best possible chance to win. And she took it and ran for the roses with it. Well, almost. Can you even imagine what might have happened if he'd given her a really sucky song that wouldn't have perked up the ears of even casual voters, who suddenly said "Wow, that brings back memories" or "now that's my kind of song sung just right," or whatever they said. So no matter how teed off I get about IHN night, I have to remember what he did LAST, because that was what counted.

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09/09/2006 5:07 PM Alert 
I think Simon knew how important it was for a guy to win this year (don't forget he produces the show), and would've rather seen Chris win than Taylor. Had it been another year though, I think he probably would've supported Katharine even moreso.
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09/09/2006 5:12 PM Alert 
i totally agree! honestly, i think he was the nicest to Kat out of all the judges. becuase paula and simon were so hard on her and she didnt deserve it because she did such a great job week after week. simon seemed to be the nicest and was the one that actually realized that she deserved to be in the finale. i know that he realizes Katharine has a pure talent!
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09/09/2006 5:34 PM Alert 
I also wanted to point that he, along with Carrie Underwood and David McPhoster, did not look very pleased when Taylor was announced the winner...just something to mull over...

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09/09/2006 5:36 PM Alert 
I'd love to ask Paula and Randy why they seemed to stop supporting Katharine. It wasn't really until "I Have Nothing" that they started being unjust and critical. I thought they were unfair on Elvis night and also most of Top 3. Then on the finale, they were almost too kind. Kat was obviously suffering vocally due to allergies, but the judges all praised her: for each and every one of her performances.

I wouldn't write Paula and Randy off as Anti-McPhans; I just think they got caught up in making sure a male would win. Afterall, throughout most of the season they constantly referred to her as one of their favorites.
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09/09/2006 5:53 PM Alert 
No one could have predicted what a dazzling and versatile talent would emerge via this contest,and though cute at the audtion,who was to know that Katharine would soon evolve into a stunning woman?Simon was indeed the most honest and perceptive of the three and he did have Kat pegged from the getgo.His comments were ususually right on,but I still cannot forgive Simon,Paula and Randy for their totally unfair,offbase critiques of IHN(still hurts to watch that),surely one of Kat's top AI perfs!!This contest had to be a roller coaster ride for Kat;trying to do her best while trying to"face the music"with the judges!She had to have had nerves of steel to come up with those excellent perfs every week!In retrospect,we have to thank AI for their brilliant discovery...this is truly the stuff that dreams are made of!!Kat's spirit is so strong that most observers,as the song goes,could not help falling in love with our gifted Kat!!!
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09/09/2006 6:01 PM Alert 
I don't know if it was said in an interview or article, but I thought this myself, also. That the judges were tougher on Kat as the season rolled along, because it was pretty clear from the start who had the most talent. There would have been no point in continuing the season, if they had kept praising Kat week after week. Sure, Taylor had the Soul Patrol thing, and Chris had the Daughtry Gang, it did make the season more interesting to watch. I admit, I watched only for Kat's performances, and voted only for her for the allotted time given. She had me from the first audition, I said right then, this girl's gonna win it all. Taylor did win, but the thing is, Kat became exposed to the masses who watched American Idol. People who know music, know Kat is a true, from the heart, great singer. I truly think she will surpass all the past Idols in popularity in a much shorter time.

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09/09/2006 9:10 PM Alert 
I can remember back in week 2 of the finals, when Kathairne sang, "Come Rain Or Come Shine", in a purple dress, with her back turned to begin the song, I felt so strongly that Katharine would win "American Idol" this year. But, I was disappointed that she didn't. The only thing that upset me was when she sang "My Destiny", and the judges slammed the song, I knew Katharine lost. It was not a great night.

Who would agree with me on that?
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09/09/2006 10:37 PM Alert 
Agreed... i mean, if she had an awesome single, and if she was healthy, i think she could have won at the finish line. but her voice wasn't healthy, the song sounded not all that good, and that was that. it was a decent single though... much better than we realized at the time.

the studio version is solid. still might not have been enough though at 100 percent. But these manufactuered singles are always pretty bad.


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09/09/2006 10:40 PM Alert 

I think that Simon possibly has his own reasons for picking Taylor, Chris, and Kellie in the beginning, but that he did feel Katharine had a great amount of potential as the show continued on, and that she could really belt out her songs and make it seem effortless.  It is definitely remarkable how many times she was complimented by Simon, and the other judges, too.

God Bless the Child, Since I Fell for You, Think, Until You Come Back to Me, Come Rain or Come Shine, The Voice Within (originally), Who Wants to Live Forever, Someone to Watch Over Me, Black Horse and the Cherry Tree, I Believe I Can Fly, Somewhere Over the Rainbow... it's an amazingly long list.  And those asre just the ones he really praised.  Simon saw Kat's talent, but I'm sure after her less than perfect Hollywood rounds he may have doubted things. But Kat came back strong and really held her own week after week, and except for the occasional dip, she was spot on... and when she did falter a little, we were there to keep the support coming!

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09/10/2006 12:21 AM Alert 
I am just really glad we had simon on our side for when the judges picked the music. I was so scared we were going to have whacky.. shoot i dont know if im allowed to say that so sorry mods! paula. I am pretty grateful to Simon for that I guess! I dont know. I have always liked the guy, he seems to be the most honest one out of the three. I have always loved him since he said that one thing to scott savol last year. LOL. I'll never forget that! Anyways, I just wished they gave her a better single, then My Destiny. Personally, I love the song, but it should have been different for finale night. i dont know, i think im one of the only people on this site that likes it! LOL.

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09/10/2006 1:25 AM Alert 
This is something I had been thinking about...could Katharine have won on finale night? Taylor had a huge fanbase, and week after week, they came through for him. His homecoming was really something.

But despite that, if it hadn't been for Katharine's allergies, she probably could've won. She also didn't look too healthy that night, and I think her performances suffered as a result (both vocally and in energy). I also think she should've chosen another song other than BHACT and mixed up SOTR a bit. In all honesty, the finale was the only night I wasn't ecstatic about her performances. Usually I couldn't restrain myself, lol. Week after week she brought classic star quality to the stage. Even on Elvis night (which wasn't her best but its still underrated) I was bouncing in my seat, heart racing...finale night just seemed like she was worn out. On the results show though, she was back...and I thought to myself, if only tonight could've been the finale instead!

I do wonder though, did Katharine want to win? Would she have been able to perform with Boccelli, or move into films had she won?
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09/10/2006 9:13 AM Alert 
Posted By megustajake on 09/10/2006 1:25 AM
This is something I had been thinking about...could Katharine have won on finale night? Taylor had a huge fanbase, and week after week, they came through for him. His homecoming was really something.

But despite that, if it hadn't been for Katharine's allergies, she probably could've won. She also didn't look too healthy that night, and I think her performances suffered as a result (both vocally and in energy). I also think she should've chosen another song other than BHACT and mixed up SOTR a bit. In all honesty, the finale was the only night I wasn't ecstatic about her performances. Usually I couldn't restrain myself, lol. Week after week she brought classic star quality to the stage. Even on Elvis night (which wasn't her best but its still underrated) I was bouncing in my seat, heart racing...finale night just seemed like she was worn out. On the results show though, she was back...and I thought to myself, if only tonight could've been the finale instead!

I do wonder though, did Katharine want to win? Would she have been able to perform with Boccelli, or move into films had she won?

Personally, I do not think Kat could have won no matter what had happened on finale night. Taylor just had way too much momentum going in. I could give a long technical 'white paper' discussion on why I believe so, but it's 10am and I want to get some breakfast, so I'll give the condensed version:

It's all about the size of the fanbase and how dedicated they are, especially in the final 2, where AI extends the voting period to an obscene 4 hours. And this is where the Soul Patrol really gained their lead. Both fanbases had enough callers to saturate the phone systems early on. That means that the number of votes/minute was roughly the same early on. But as the night drew on, casual voters for Kat turned in, however, the SP had more than enough fanatical reserves to fill in the gaps on their side. By 11:30 PM ET, Kat's phone lines were WIDE OPEN on the East Coast! Text messaging is alot harder to guage, but I expect similar results. So IMO the situation was out of Kat's control going in. Also IMO, if AI had kept the voting time to 2 hrs, we would have had a much better chance of getting Kat the crown.

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09/10/2006 11:02 AM Alert 
seemed to me that simon was well aware of katharine superior talent. he needed to be careful not to oversell, inasmuch as the show needed to continue with seemingly close competition. the ratings of IDOL is the no. 1 priority.
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09/10/2006 2:29 PM Alert 
The fact that Kat got to the final two really is what was special. Top 3 wouldn't have been the same. Elliott fans deserve a lot of credit though, because he was a kid who had no momentum in the beginning.

But I wanted Kat to win just so I could see the moment where her name is announced, and she'd obviously be overwhelmed and in tears. We never got that moment, it motivated me to vote like crazy though.


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09/10/2006 11:43 PM Alert 
I'm not sure I've always bought into the various theories that have been tossed around about what the judges' ulterrior motives are, but it's pretty clear to me that Simon was Kat's best support on the panel. For coming up with SOTR alone, he deserves a lot of credit, and I think that's why Kat name-checked him during the "Think" on Top 3 results night. During the finale, even while slamming MD, he did say that he was "delighted" Kat was in the finals, and I don't think he was just being dramatic in that case.
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09/11/2006 12:00 AM Alert 
i totally agree actually...everybody i know voted for her like crazy because we wanted that moment too...and even though kat is happy where she is and with what she got out of AI so far...i am SURE, as she said in the homecoming video of good day LA, 'don't get me wrong, you always want to take it home,' so oh well...we will just have to transpose katharine into that winner spot with the reaction we SHOULD have seen!  we all know she is the better singer--and that IS what AI is all about, or so they say!   


Posted By kenneth on 09/10/2006 2:29 PM
The fact that Kat got to the final two really is what was special. Top 3 wouldn't have been the same. Elliott fans deserve a lot of credit though, because he was a kid who had no momentum in the beginning.

But I wanted Kat to win just so I could see the moment where her name is announced, and she'd obviously be overwhelmed and in tears. We never got that moment, it motivated me to vote like crazy though.
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09/11/2006 7:09 AM Alert 
Posted By bcollan on 09/10/2006 9:13 AM
Personally, I do not think Kat could have won no matter what had happened on finale night. Taylor just had way too much momentum going in. I could give a long technical 'white paper' discussion on why I believe so, but it's 10am and I want to get some breakfast, so I'll give the condensed version:

It's all about the size of the fanbase and how dedicated they are, especially in the final 2, where AI extends the voting period to an obscene 4 hours. And this is where the Soul Patrol really gained their lead. Both fanbases had enough callers to saturate the phone systems early on. That means that the number of votes/minute was roughly the same early on. But as the night drew on, casual voters for Kat turned in, however, the SP had more than enough fanatical reserves to fill in the gaps on their side. By 11:30 PM ET, Kat's phone lines were WIDE OPEN on the East Coast! Text messaging is alot harder to guage, but I expect similar results. So IMO the situation was out of Kat's control going in. Also IMO, if AI had kept the voting time to 2 hrs, we would have had a much better chance of getting Kat the crown.
I agree...Taylor had never been in the bottom 3 and when Chris & Elliot were gone; he was near impossible to beat.  It WOULD be interesting to really know the final vote count for each of them.  But I really expected Taylor to win.
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09/11/2006 2:46 PM Alert 
I hate to be at the end of the spectrum here but some of you mentioned that we have to give credit to Simon for picking SOTR for Kat. My personal feelings about that is, Simon thought it all through. He is thinking that he can not stop Kat's popularity and that obviously, it will take a miracle for Elliott to win over Kat so he had to pick a sure thing song for Kat...something heartfelt...something Katlike that he knew she could pull off. He also wants to make sure that Kat will appear to have a fight over SP's Tay Tay which he knew will be pronounced a winner after Chris' fans could not pull him off #4. But this is all for "show" so that it appears that they are fair. It's all self serving.

The only time I would believe alll of what the judges say is if they actually allow only one vote per line and announce how many votes each contestant received. I know this won't happen...not in a million years.
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