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04/24/2006 4:19 PM Alert 

So, we've all heard the theory before - "big notes = big votes." This is, of course, the theory that if a contestant ends a song with a big, powerful, long note that it will encourage people to vote for them.

 

The executive producer of American Idol, Nigel Lythgoe, was interviewed on Fox Reality - American Idol Extra, and this is what he said, "What the kids aren't doing this year, I don't think, are hitting those last notes. The notes that make you want to stand up and applaud them."

 

I thought about this for awhile, and decided that this theory could prove to be very true. Much of the general public does not have perfect pitch or much musical knowledge at all, really, so it is somewhat difficult for them to accurately judge a musical performance. To many people, a big note says, "Wow, that girl can sing!" This, of course, helps influence the decision of who to vote for and even whether or not they will vote at all.

 

The best example for this is from Katharine's Come Rain or Come Shine performace. When she sings (toward the end of the song), "But I'm with you always, I'm with you rain or shine" you can hear people clapping and cheering for her before she even finishes the song because she hit the big note on "shine." Then she ends the song with, "I'm with you rain or shine," and hits another big note on the last "shine." Many people think that CROCS was Kat's best perfomace, and I'm sure we all remember that was the night Simon said Kat became a star. =) There seems to be an interesting correlation between the big notes and the reviews of the performance. (Although I'm not saying that the rest of the wasn't amazing also.)

 

I would conclude that "big notes" impress people.

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04/24/2006 7:28 PM Alert 
Unfortunately true. America tends to confuse power belting and extended notes with vocal ability. No wonder "Wicked" is such a big hit on Broadway, making Idena Menzel a star solely upon her power belt (which IS amazing). I was drawn to Kat because of her gorgeous, silky, pure-toned midrange which gives me goosebumps. Now that is a heck of a lot rarer than power belting! Maybe through songs like last week's "Someone to Watch Over Me" Kat can teach America to better appreciate a more subtle ane elegant style of singing.

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04/24/2006 7:38 PM Alert 
I agree with you on that. American seems to judge alot on how BIG the voice is rather than tone, pitch, or style. Like bcollan said, I was drawn to Kat because of how subtle her voice was rather than just being powerful. I wish more people would appreciate the way Kat sings, especially the runs and softer parts because in all honestly, singing softer or singing runs are much harder than singing one note really loudly and holding it forever.
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04/24/2006 7:38 PM Alert 
Yup I think this is definitely true. Which is one of the reason's America thought Mandisa was so good... because she would just shout out high notes (not trying to bash). Anyone could get up there and sing high notes and some people would think they were amazing. But Kat is so much better than that. She can do everything. But it might help if she ended with a high note more. I don't know haha just what I think.
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04/24/2006 7:56 PM Alert 
Posted By JxAxDxExD on 04/24/2006 4:19 PM

So, we've all heard the theory before - "big notes = big votes." This is, of course, the theory that if a contestant ends a song with a big, powerful, long note that it will encourage people to vote for them.

 

The executive producer of American Idol, Nigel Lythgoe, was interviewed on Fox Reality - American Idol Extra, and this is what he said, "What the kids aren't doing this year, I don't think, are hitting those last notes. The notes that make you want to stand up and applaud them."

The best example for this is from Katharine's Come Rain or Come Shine performace. When she sings (toward the end of the song), "But I'm with you always, I'm with you rain or shine" you can hear people clapping and cheering for her before she even finishes the song because she hit the big note on "shine." Then she ends the song with, "I'm with you rain or shine," and hits another big note on the last "shine." Many people think that CROCS was Kat's best perfomace, and I'm sure we all remember that was the night Simon said Kat became a star. =) There seems to be an interesting correlation between the big notes and the reviews of the performance. (Although I'm not saying that the rest of the wasn't amazing also.)

I would conclude that "big notes" impress people.



 

I agree that Big Notes = Big Votes....and I think that what’s been missing from show, that signature, powerful long finishing note…it may be sad...but I think it's true

 

Paris has that kind of power, and I have heard hints of Kat’s potential power, but she, so far, has stopped just short (in my opinion) of reaching that sustained height, in terms of power…otherwise she’s hit every other height I could ask for…but I think people want to see that dramatic effort….and the ability to ‘hit and hold’….whoever does it, will swing a lot of votes their way…I don’t think Chris or Taylor (and certainly not Kellie) can deliver that  high, sustained signature note…..Kat came close in CROCS (I always have to say those acronyms out loud to read it right or type it right..)…but there’s more to give…come on Kat…buurrrr….burrrrr

 

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04/24/2006 9:06 PM Alert 
I for one is not impressed with big notes per se rather my taste of good singing is if they delivered the message to me...if I felt them. Mandisa sure had the vocal chops and she showed them off so well during the top 24 elimination. She belted out songs like there is no tomorrow. As much as that is very impressive to me, it got old fast.

Paris...she is a wonderful singer and could do the same. As a matter of fact, she has belted out quite a few songs with big notes at the end but it is the subtle, jazzy, mellow style of her singing that I like better like what she did last tuesday (I recall her to be the signing CEO). However, I still don't get Paris. I don't know why I am not as impressed as how I sound when I describe her singing. I'm sure it's not her. It's me.

Kat on the other hand is an effortless, phenomenal singer with the most outstanding vocal control. She does not belt out her big notes, she sings them. That is the difference. I am convinced that people that like Katharine understands what singing is all about and gives her credit for her flawless, unirritating, non-screaming vocal ability. Big notes are good but singing the big note is better.

I don't remember Taylor ever delivering a big note ending yet. I think he is more of a stylish singer. Chris does scream out his singing but that suits the rock style. I dont' remember if he delivers big ending notes. Elliott has the vibrato in his style of singing that I do not prefer but he does have a good tone to his voice. As far as big notes??? I don't remember. So if the big notes buys the big votes, why does Taylor remain on top each week? Why is Mandisa out of the competish? Why is Paris at the bottom and at one point even Kat? Just wondering?
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04/24/2006 9:08 PM Alert 
Geese!!!  English 101 winnie...I meant to say "I, for one, am not impressed.."  sorry!
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Posted By winnpoober on 04/24/2006 9:06 PM
So if the big notes buys the big votes, why does Taylor remain on top each week? Why is Mandisa out of the competish? Why is Paris at the bottom and at one point even Kat? Just wondering?

You are also right. Big notes alone aren't enough. Rememeber 2 years ago, when Diana could literally hold a big note for 5 minutes, and she finished second to Fantasia. I really, really, REALLY want Kat to win this thing, but I have mixed feelings about her compromising her elegant vocal style for votes.



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04/24/2006 9:37 PM Alert 
come on Kat…buurrrr….burrrrr


Idoleyes, you crack me up. Hahaha. Maybe one day Kat will make the Muskrat noise just for you. =) I could only hope. Haha.

I was drawn to Kat because of her gorgeous, silky, pure-toned midrange which gives me goosebumps.


I totally agree! I think Kat's lower range is the most beautiful part of her voice. She sounds so effortless when she sings down there. =) Her voice is, er, sultry. ;)


So if the big notes buys the big votes, why does Taylor remain on top each week? Why is Mandisa out of the competish? Why is Paris at the bottom and at one point even Kat? Just wondering?


Big notes are not the only thing that buy votes. It's obvious that Taylor has a HUGE fanbase, and we all have our own theories about why Mandisa got the boot. So far in the competition I don't think anyone has delivered the kind of big note that completely and totally inspires people to get up and vote. Maybe Kat will be the first to blow us away with the big note. =) I don't think she, or anyone else for that matter, should make a habit of it, but it'd be nice to see once.
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04/25/2006 9:07 AM Alert 
I'm sure that is what Simon was alluding to when after the WWTLF performance he stated "that was almost the moment". I think he was implying that she had nearly added the impressive "big" notes to all the other things she has going for her in her vocal abilities which are many indeed. The implication was though that adding a spectacular "big" song performance might close the deal in a lot of people's minds. But since the power notes in that song weren't totally solid in spots I guess it maybe left open the door of uncertainty for some. Kat certainly has the ability to go up into the upper range and do some very nice things which she has already demonstrated throughout the competition but I agree that the mid and lower registers are and will always be her bread and butter.
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Posted By FanofMcPhee on 04/25/2006 9:07 AM
I'm sure that is what Simon was alluding to when after the WWTLF performance he stated "that was almost the moment". I think he was implying that she had nearly added the impressive "big" notes to all the other things she has going for her in her vocal abilities which are many indeed. The implication was though that adding a spectacular "big" song performance might close the deal in a lot of people's minds. But since the power notes in that song weren't totally solid in spots I guess it maybe left open the door of uncertainty for some. Kat certainly has the ability to go up into the upper range and do some very nice things which she has already demonstrated throughout the competition but I agree that the mid and lower registers are and will always be her bread and butter.



 

Fano...I agree with you...I think he was sending Kat a subtle messgae...and I think it would close the deal...Go Kat!

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04/25/2006 6:13 PM Alert 
After Kat sang 'Come Rain or Come Shine', Simon said that he thought she became a star that night, and it could very well have been because of her big notes that night. That is one of my favorite performances, and I have to agree that when she does the big notes, she tends to stick out more. I read on another site that Kat might be singing either 'I Will Always Love You' or 'I Have Nothing' both by Whitney Houston. She will definitely be able to put out the big notes if she did choose these!! Very exciting!!

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