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04/14/2006 3:19 PM Alert 
I don't think you can get most of the adults who want Kat to win to power vote. It just isn't important enough to them, which is reasonable (it is only a game show, and a lot have more important things to do). The key is to find the few old guys like Slice and I who don't care and vote like we are 14. That said, introducing people to Kat through video and mp3's can bring out the kid in them, and get people addicted.

BTW, Jaded, you might be the most mature (at least most well spoken) 17 year old ever. We don't get sick of hearing from you. You have a perspective that a lot of us don't have and we would like to attract a younger audience for Kat.
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04/14/2006 3:36 PM Alert 
Kat has obviously appealed to them, so how could you get them to become "powervoters"?


Hmmm, that's a really good question, and I honestly don't think I have a clue how to answer it. What Chad said about adults not voting because they have better things to do - the same may be said for a lot of teenagers. The guys want to look at Kat while she's there, but I'm not sure they have enough of a vested interesting to make their own effort to keep her in the competition. I'm not sure how we could go about making them care. Haha. Find a website where teenage boys congregate and post pictures of Katharine? =p Surely there would be a few that would take interest. Haha.

BTW, Jaded, you might be the most mature (at least most well spoken) 17 year old ever. We don't get sick of hearing from you. You have a perspective that a lot of us don't have and we would like to attract a younger audience for Kat.


Haha. Thanks, Chad. That's definitely a compliment. You may not be suprised to know that I plan on being an English major in college. =) I think that's where the "well spoken" part comes from. I think it's necessary to be well spoken if you want people to take you seriously. =) Oh, and I'm glad I can help with my "perspective." =p
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04/14/2006 3:47 PM Alert 
The key is to find the few old guys like Slice and I who don't care and vote like we are 14.

LMAO..when I first read it I thought you were just calling ME out...then noticed that you included yourself in the post. You are not old until you hit 30...just kidding. So true...I have plenty of friends that watch the show religiously with their fiances, girlfriends, wives and won't vote because, "I'm not a 14 year old girl....." Screw that. If you watch the show, and have a favorite...even if its not KAT, you should take the time to push your favorite through to the next round.

JADED - That's not a bad idea....maybe create a Myspace account for Kat and have it appeal to teenage guys. Sure would provide more exposure and get some more votes for Ms. McPhee.
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04/14/2006 4:07 PM Alert 
Yes, and also some of us married guys have to try and avoid our wives for 2 hours while we're "power voting" for Kat so the wife won't be ill at us for being into this 22 year old beautiful, talented female singer enough that we would keep a phone in our hands for 2 hours hitting the redial button. So far I've stayed out of hot water but I definitely keep a low profile after the show.
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04/14/2006 10:14 PM Alert 
You are not old until you hit 30


Hey hey now!.....ha!


JADED - That's not a bad idea....maybe create a Myspace account for Kat and have it appeal to teenage guys. Sure would provide more exposure and get some more votes for Ms. McPhee.



This is a great idea!, we have lots of stuff here u can use Jaded! Yes, Exposure, thats the Key
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04/14/2006 11:06 PM Alert 
Hmmm, I would love to help out by creating a myspace and becoming "friends" with tons of teenage boys. =) Buuut, I must admit that computers and the internet are not my forte. =p I know how myspace works, but as for adding audio, video, and images... I'm a little lost. I'll see if I can brush up on it, though. I'd be glad to help however I can so if anyone ever has any ideas for me feel free to let me know. =)
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04/15/2006 2:14 AM Alert 
Actually I already saw several katharine site on MySpace. Some are really nice.

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04/15/2006 3:31 AM Alert 

To pick up on my question of ‘What does Kat have to do to increase her demographic appeal…’ I’ve given it more thought to try to identify what I think is missing, and how Kat could improve her appeal.

 

It’s weird…. Kat’s the contestant I like the most, but feel I know the least about.  I think she has to open up more and let America, and the world, see more of who she is.

 

When I think of the individual ‘stories’ of each contestant that have been built up on the show, I get a certain picture of who they are, where they come from, what they been through etc. The kinds of things that stuck in my mind about them  - and my deliberately rambling impressions of the top 4 would be:

 

Kat - young, smart; sweet, gorgeous, charming; polite, refined, genuine, great voice; incredibly versatile; captivating stage and performance presence; has done some work in musicals; stable and loving family background; vocally trained by her Mom who’s an accomplished cabaret performer and vocal coach; ultimately seems capable of doing Broadway; movies; T.V.; music career; she’s got it all.

 

Taylor - grey hair; young spirit; old soul; modest upbringing; wholesome southern gentleman; he’s unconventional; unpretentious; uncontrived; uninhibited; great/unique voice; so engrossed in the passion for his music that he doesn’t care how he looks when he performs (dances?); has been a performing musician for a while; made a CD, sings a great version of ‘Georgia’,

 

Chris - good vocal talent; serious/darker nature; dreams of making it in the music biz; marries his girlfriend who had two kids; gives up his music dream to work hard at a service job to support family; wife cries as she tells of him giving up his dream and loving her children as if they were his own; no formal vocal training; played in a band; NC southern roots;

 

Kellie – attractive; naïve, sweet, big heart; mom left/died?; dad’s in jail; very modest financial circumstances; no formal vocal training; grandpa raised her and cries every time her talks about her; she loves her dog and baby brother; small southern town pulling for her; she impresses more by her pleasant/quirky disposition and courage than by her vocal ability; (people can say what they want about the legitimacy of her naivety or intelligence, but  I believe that anyone who can proudly announce to over 30 million viewers that she is holding ‘…the community snot rag…’ is special…one way or another!)

 

So when I look at the ‘stories’ of the contestants I see (or remember) more flaws, frailty, struggle, adversity, or a deeper personal touch in the other 3 ‘stories’ than I do in Kat’s. So that could be one element that’s preventing a wider demographic acceptance – people identify, connect and sympathize with humane elements in a person’s life (happy, sad, funny, whatever). The other 3 contestants seem more inclined to share that side of themselves, and I think it impacts voters.

 

For example, from a strictly vocal perspective, there’s no way Kellie should outlast Paris or Elliott on the show, since both have superior vocal ability…but I think she will outlast them, partly because of her physical appearance and partly because she has been successful at establishing more of a ‘human element’ connection with the viewers/voters by virtue of her openness (sometimes to excess) on the show. The AI contest is not just about vocal ability; it also entails a number of intangibles that influence voters.  

 

As the show progresses, the margin of votes that determine elimination and/or ultimate victory will get smaller and smaller (Rubin Studdard won by less than 140,000 votes a few years ago). So, while a stellar vocal performance and song selection will continue to be the most important factors, the intangible of connecting to the voters will also be increasingly important since one would expect that, when it comes down to the final 4, all the contestants should be capable of delivering a solid performance - the ‘wheat having been separated the from the chaff’; and Kellie seems to keep proving, it’s not just about having the best vocals.

 

Obviously, Kat already connects to millions of fans through the many attributes I mentioned earlier, and she may choose or prefer not to be more open, and that’s her right too, but I think it gives the other contestants an advantage if she doesn’t open up more, especially since she is so wonderful and I think it would draw more voters to her. She doesn’t have to try to match or outdo the ‘stories’ of the others, just let the viewers get to know her better on a personal level.

 

Part of Kat opening up more can be achieved through selecting a few more upbeat songs that allow her to break out of her ‘Broadway niche’ and just ‘let it all out’. As well, I don’t know how much of the show is scripted for them (pre-performance discussion of their songs, in-depth look at their families, banter with Ryan Seacrest etc.) but if the contestants have some latitude in what they say, it would be nice if Kat could use those types of opportunities give viewers more insight into ‘what makes her tick’.

 

I believe she can win.

 

 

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04/15/2006 7:17 AM Alert 
Idoleyes, that was good. You have picked up some very good points....

Someone mentioned before that being comfortable and pleasing viewers, might be 2 different things, I actually have a strong feeling that Kat is very aware of this NOW.

I remember Carrie in an interview mentioned that during her journey in the show, she did not have a strategy, but she said if this week she sang a slow slong, next week she has to do a more up beat song, and it worked wonders for her.

If im not mistaken, Kat is kinda doing this right now.... but because of her comfort element, she needs to break out from that as you mentioned, because people are getting to know Kat, and learning that she is a genuine, free, fun, sometimes dorky, beautiful girl, and attaching that to the song she chooses... its a little bit unfair, but thats how the game is at this moment.

Yes, I dont think she has any unfortunate stories to share (actually i hope not)... but maybe there is something more that connects with most people, Kellie has that, Chris has that, Taylor as well... All people are seeing is that Kat lives in LA, comfortable, loving family, good upbringing and talented.... and whats funny is...for people it seems thats not enough...

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04/15/2006 7:59 AM Alert 
*** IMPORTANT ALERT TO KATHARINE FANS -- SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALIZE***

Last night on EXTRA, Simon Cowell suggested the future is dim for our beautiful and popular Katharine. He said, "She's reaching a point where she's looking so perfect and sounding so perfect, ironically, it can work against you ....she won't win." HE’S RIGHT! There are tons of angry, hateful comments about Katharine on lots of blogs out there. Some of these are a twisted expression of jealousy or envy. Others simply believe Katharine is too good to be true --that she’s really a Hollywood fabrication, not the gifted natural performer we know her to be!

Another source, http://www.zabasearch.com/ai_stats.php (copy this to your browser) showed evidence of Simon's prediction ....that Kellie got TWICE as many votes last Tuesday as Katharine!

....SO IT’S TIME FOR US TO ‘LEAP INTO ACTION’, FOLKS!!!!! LET’S CALL ALL OUR FRIENDS & ASK THEM TO RAPIDLY REDIAL EVERY PHONE THEY HAVE FOR KATHARINE NEXT TUESDAY NITE & EVERY TUESDAY NITE STARTING RIGHT AFTER THE LAST SONG, UNTIL THE LINES ARE BUSIED OUT JUST OVER 2 HRS LATER!

(You can copy & email my message above out to friends too, if you like)
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04/15/2006 10:36 AM Alert 
Posted By Noni on 04/15/2006 7:17 AM
Idoleyes, that was good. You have picked up some very good points....

Someone mentioned before that being comfortable and pleasing viewers, might be 2 different things, I actually have a strong feeling that Kat is very aware of this NOW.

I remember Carrie in an interview mentioned that during her journey in the show, she did not have a strategy, but she said if this week she sang a slow slong, next week she has to do a more up beat song, and it worked wonders for her.

If im not mistaken, Kat is kinda doing this right now.... but because of her comfort element, she needs to break out from that as you mentioned, because people are getting to know Kat, and learning that she is a genuine, free, fun, sometimes dorky, beautiful girl, and attaching that to the song she chooses... its a little bit unfair, but thats how the game is at this moment.

Yes, I dont think she has any unfortunate stories to share (actually i hope not)... but maybe there is something more that connects with most people, Kellie has that, Chris has that, Taylor as well... All people are seeing is that Kat lives in LA, comfortable, loving family, good upbringing and talented.... and whats funny is...for people it seems thats not enough...

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Exactly, she doesn't have to (and shouldn't) make anything up, (or adopt a one-legged dog or go on a hunger-strike against world poverty), but show the viewers more of her personality and the 'inner Kat'....either through her upbeat song selection and performance or in what she talks about in her mini-interviews etc.

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04/15/2006 12:13 PM Alert 
Posted By nasaman on 04/15/2006 7:59 AM
*** IMPORTANT ALERT TO KATHARINE FANS -- SOMETHING WE NEED TO REALIZE***

Last night on EXTRA, Simon Cowell suggested the future is dim for our beautiful and popular Katharine. He said, "She's reaching a point where she's looking so perfect and sounding so perfect, ironically, it can work against you ....she won't win." HE’S RIGHT! There are tons of angry, hateful comments about Katharine on lots of blogs out there. Some of these are a twisted expression of jealousy or envy. Others simply believe Katharine is too good to be true --that she’s really a Hollywood fabrication, not the gifted natural performer we know her to be!

Another source, http://www.zabasearch.com/ai_stats.php (copy this to your browser) showed evidence of Simon's prediction ....that Kellie got TWICE as many votes last Tuesday as Katharine!

....SO IT’S TIME FOR US TO ‘LEAP INTO ACTION’, FOLKS!!!!! LET’S CALL ALL OUR FRIENDS & ASK THEM TO RAPIDLY REDIAL EVERY PHONE THEY HAVE FOR KATHARINE NEXT TUESDAY NITE & EVERY TUESDAY NITE STARTING RIGHT AFTER THE LAST SONG, UNTIL THE LINES ARE BUSIED OUT JUST OVER 2 HRS LATER!

(You can copy & email my message above out to friends too, if you like)

 

If Simon actually said that, it is reprehensible and completely unfair…but did he actually say ‘Kat won’t win..’

 

It is one thing to say something negative about a contestant in the auditions, and maybe during the early eliminations (‘Kevin Covais – you’re not going to win…’), but to say something like that to an acknowledged favorite, at this stage of the competition – especially given that he is a judge on the show (and unquestionably in a position to influence voters) - is just wrong.

 

We are down to the final 7 and Simon comes out now and says to a contestant ‘You won’t win…’??!! That’s such a conflict of interest….how would it be if the host of the Miss America pageant said, on national T.V., to a contestant in the final group of  7 during the televised competition… ‘You’re hips are too wide…you will not win…” sure, the host can say ‘’That’s just my opinion…and I don’t vote…other people make the decision…’ but it does have an effect on the contestants confidence and does have an affect on the voters/judges to some degree (tell me they won’t revaluate her hips…?!.)

 

And how is Kat supposed to react…especially when that snake Seacrest sticks a microphone in her face and gets that goofy grin on and says ‘So Kat…Simon has told millions of viewers that you won’t win…how do you feel about that?...Are you really as superficial as Simon thinks?…What are you going to do when you get kicked off the show?…”

 

I heard that Simon predicted a while ago that Chris, Taylor and Kellie would make the top three…that was inappropriate too, but at least long enough ago that it could be taken as more of a speculative guess.

 

I may be cynical, but I worry that Simon is so egotistical that he is trying to implement his ‘self-fulfilling prophecy’ in his Chris, Taylor, Kellie prediction. When he made the prediction about Kellie, it just seemed absurd and impossible that she would end up in the top 3. Simon might make himself right.

 

But the worst part is – as much as I think he is a weasle – Simon may be at least partially right. I’ve been feeling for a while that Kat has to be more conscious about her demographic appeal, and needs do something that breaks down the walls around her that prevent people from connecting with her.

 

The biggest fear I now have is: how does Kat respond to the issue….if she changes now, people will say she is ‘not real’ bla…bal…bal

 

Again I don’t really know what she should do…but I think she should attack it  ‘straight on’ like she did when Simon gave an interview and couldn’t remember Kat’s name; or better still, the way Seacrest addressed Kellie’s ‘stupidity act’.

 

If the AI producers have any sense of fairness (not sure they do) they should give Kat the same opportunity they gave Kellie to respond to false rumors.

 

I don't believe the competition 'is over' for Kat..but I also don't think the issue can be resloved just by genertaing more Kat Calls from current Kat supporters....it a deeper rooted 'image' issue that cuts a pretty wide demographic path, and it must be dealt with.

 

On the upside, other contestants have made changes to their approach/image and Kat still has time to do 'damage control' - Kat just needs strategic advice on how to deal with this issue diplomatically and intelligently…


Go Kat.
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04/15/2006 1:18 PM Alert 
I downloaded Simons thingy here (thx Rhine for link):

http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/extra/2005/extra/cowell0414_dl.mov

nasaman, is that information legit? i mean yes bottom 3 was what we know already, but what about the charts for the rest? i need more facts here...

If we study simon week by week, I believe somehow he is playing a reverse phsychology (call me crazy.. i dont care). I also believe that pimping Kat all the time would have made even more damage. so Im looking at this positively It means we must do the power voting every week. its that simple.
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04/15/2006 2:38 PM Alert 

Noni, yes unfortunately, I believe the chart at http://www.zabasearch.com/ai_stats.php showing Kelli with 2X the votes as our Katharine is legit. (And in case anyone is wondering, I'm sure the Extra interview of Simon is also legit -- anyone can see/hear it for themselves at..... http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/extra/2005/extra/cowell0414_dl.mov ).

 

While I admire the goal of this thread to help Katharine by advising her directly, I genuinely believe the most productive thing any of us as fans can do is to recruit as many other 'Mcphans' as possible who are willing to vote, using multiple phones when possible, to rapidly RE-dial for a solid 2+ hrs every Tues nite. In my judgement as a telecommunications engineer, all of the text voting & automated techniques will account for only a small percenatge of the vote totals, so our best response to this negative information is to increase the numbers of fans we can rally for Katharine who are willing to vote massively for her.

 

Yes, reverse psychology could actually help Katharine win -- IF IT MOTIVATES ENOUGH MCPHANS TO GET OFF OUR BUTTS & GET THE VOTES OUT FOR HER!!!

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Posted By Noni on 04/15/2006 1:18 PM
I downloaded Simons thingy here (thx Rhine for link):

http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/extra/2005/extra/cowell0414_dl.mov

nasaman, is that information legit? i mean yes bottom 3 was what we know already, but what about the charts for the rest? i need more facts here...

If we study simon week by week, I believe somehow he is playing a reverse pshcology (call me crazy.. i dont care). I also believe that pimping Kat all the time would have made even more damage. so Im looking at this positively It means we must do the power voting every week. its that simple.


I just watched the video...thanks for the link...and although Simon said "She's (Kat’s) reaching a point where she's looking so perfect and sounding so perfect. Ironically, it can work against you," yes, he also did say "She won't win.".

 

For what it's worth he also slammed Taylor for his weird dancing and said that Ace’s ‘day‘s are numbered….and said his sentimental favorite is Paris (but didn’t say she would win). In the same interview Simon said that Ryan and Paula owe him big time for making their careers.