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04/12/2006 12:34 PM Alert 

I enjoy this ‘Kat Chat’ forum…and, putting aside the passionate feelings for Kat, and approaching it from a more pragmatic perspective: as the AI competition progresses, the strategy for increasing voter appeal gets more intriguing and the implications get more daunting (elimination!). I’m interested to hear feedback and opinions on ‘What does Kat have to do to increase her demographic appeal?’

 

God bless the many passionate Kat fans out there (I’m one of them) but there is little value in responding with ‘Kat’s the best…she’s beautiful… she’s got the best voice…she doesn’t have to do anything...I love her just the way she is…’ because, while that may be true, it doesn’t help deal with the real issue - and primary goal -  of helping Kat win AI, and it ignores - to Kat’s detriment - the appeal the other contestants have built up, and, as importantly, does nothing to prepare Kat to attract the looming votes that will become available as successive contestants get voted off.

 

I have no idea of the actual AI viewer demographic breakdown of the popular vote, (likley proportionally dominated by women 25 and over?) but I would guess that Taylor cuts across a wider demographic fan base than Kat currently does, particularly in the younger age groups. I suspect that Kat has penetrated fairly well into the ‘over 25’ age group (based primarily on her more sophisticated style) but, to win the competition, I think she has to broaden her fan base – by appealing to a wider section of the viewing public, particularly in the 16-25 range, or positioning herself by her perfomances and song choices to swing more votes her way.

 

In my opinion, strategically, now (in the next few performances) is the time to take a risk and attempt to broaden Kat’s fan appeal, since (I think) Ace, Bucky, Paris and Elliott will likely be voted off in the coming weeks, and thereafter it really gets intense. Kat’s passionate fans will stick with her no matter what she does, so she might as well try something to pick up some of the pending votes. I think that Bucky’s fans might migrate to Kellie to some degree, but Ace, Paris and Elliott voters are ripe for the McPicking.

 

Chris currently has a solid support base, but ultimately I think his limited ‘hard style’ will ‘flat-line’ and he won’t be the largest benefactor of the voter shift as successive contestants get eliminated.

 

Kellie has got a huge following too, but again, I don’t see Ace or Paris or Elliott supporters flocking to the ‘Pickle wagon’ in lopsided numbers.

 

Taylor currently strikes me as the one contestant that attracts the widest demographic appeal, and consequently is best positioned to pick up votes from fans of soon-to-be eliminated contestants.

 

So, in my humble, totally unqualified ‘quess-timation’, I see a real opportunity for Kat to continue to expand her support base, but I think she has to diversify what she offers the viewers/voters, and now is a good time to experiment and take a risk. I’m hoping Kat ‘throws caution to the wind’ and hammers out something special and really upbeat for Rod Stewart week. We need to see that side of her.

 

Anyway, I’m not looking for a consultants report, and I also realize that Kat’s mom is a real pro, and she is probably very aware of the demographic influences and is constantly refining the strategy to attract voters…but I’d be interested in the opinions of some fellow ‘posters’ out there in terms of their perspective on Kat’s demographic appeal and the strategy she should follow to pick up more votes to win AI. 

 

Clearly neither Kat, nor any of the contestants, should swing too far from their 'true' identity, but a little subtle 'tweaking' doesn't hurt...and others are doing it...I especially notice how Taylor (love it, or hate it) returned to his uninhibited performance style; and Paris has suddenly found her 'big people' voice and she has toned down her appearance and 'over-the-top' performances...and Kellie did a credible 'temporary transition' from 'country girl' to 'rocker'.

 

What's Kat's answer to the competition? It might help if people that respond identified what general age-group they're in; and what they like about Kat and/or what she should do (or do more of) to increase her appeal; or who they think the eliminated contestants might be, and who their supporters might switch their votes to, and why you feel that way, etc.. 

 

(This post is already much longer than I intended it to be..!!...and my apologies if this issue has already been raised or is under another thread…just point me to the existing thread and I’ll pick it up there)

 

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04/12/2006 12:55 PM Alert 
I’m hoping Kat ‘throws caution to the wind’ and hammers out something special and really upbeat for Rod Stewart week. We need to see that side of her.

She would have accomplished this if she sang "Don't Stop Me Now". You even saw in the rehearsal with Queen how much fun she had with the song. I'm in the 25 - 30 age group. Kat caught my eye with that top notch voice and stunning appearance. My kind of girl...ya know. I appreciate the 'zone' she seems to be sticking with, but if she wants to WIN she needs to take some more risks. Taylor crushes in voting because he has a lot of fun on stage, good voice, and plays to the crowd. Kat can and should do this. She took a few steps in this direction on Country Night. Now she needs to burst through the door next week with Rod Stewart..
Is this going to be part of some scientific journal article...? LOL.
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04/12/2006 1:24 PM Alert 
My opinion is that taking a risk is a double edge sword. Taking a risk like Ace took a risk is not working to his favor. Whether Kat takes a risk or not is besides the point. She needs a top notch performance each week. She needs to blow them all away. She needs for Simon to say "Wow Katharine....that was the performance to beat" or "With that performance I think you will be the next idol". Then and only then I can truly believe that she will take the title.

I remembered last year when Simon said that of Carrie and I think her fan base doubled after that. She already has the beauty to go with it. She has the voice. She just needs that performance of her life...something even Taylor fans (who consistently puts him up top each week) could say, "nah, Taylor does not need to win this contest. Let's vote for Kat".
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04/12/2006 1:44 PM Alert 

Slice - I thought 'Killer Queen' would have been perfect for Kat...it would have given her the scope to get out of her 'demure composure' and really 'vamp it up' a little...'take more risks' as you point out.

I agree she would benefit by trying to 'burst through the door' next week. It doesn't have to be a permanent shift in approach, but it would show a side of Kat that I believe is lurking - and needs to be displayed.

BTW - If anything I ever did ended up in 'some scientific journal' I would be shocked and disappointed in science! LOL

 

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04/12/2006 2:21 PM Alert 
Idoleyes - You hit the nail on the head.....it doesn't have to be a permanent shift in her performances, but just something to show her in a different light than a broadway performer with a big voice. Point well taken. When I saw your username as "idoleyes" I immediately thought...ok this person likes more than one AI contestant and is gathering data....LOL.

Winnpoober - I swear, I was going to say the same exact thing. Kat needs a Carrie Underwood "Heart" Performance. "Not only are you going to win this competition, you are going to sell more records than any other Idol winner". And the rest was history.
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04/12/2006 2:51 PM Alert 
Idoleyes, you might have a rough idea on the demographics from the poll at the front of this website where you can see the group ages... im in the 30's bracket... but spirit is 23! LMAO!!

I agree with she doesnt need to do a permanent shift... but in this stage great "song choices" is what ppl really see. She is certainly comfortable singing 'WWTLF', thats why she decided to choose that song....

But because we all LOVE seeing Kats personality which is Fun, Bubbly, Energetic... such as when she performed 'THINK' ppl are expecting her to always perform song choices such as that, also 'CROCS' was great..shows her personality aswell IMO

So it really comes back to that...

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04/12/2006 3:27 PM Alert 
I don't think Kat really enjoys dancing, jumping, and running around the stage when she sings. Like you guys said, she had already picked a more upbeat song originally but she decided to change in the last minute. In the clips before the singing, she said she wanted to sing a song that is not that up-tempo and just wants to concentrate on the lyrics and the singing, instead of running aroung the stage. And she's pretty determined and consistent about that regardless of whether people like it or not. Maybe she really hates that style. I'm pretty sure she also knows the consequence of her determination.
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04/12/2006 3:30 PM Alert 
I know Katharine would probably prefer to do songs that she feels more passion for and are in more of her "comfort zone" but the problem with a song like last night is that it really doesn't connect very well with the 25 and younger crowd who do a LOT of the voting. She needs to find a balance where she can do songs that can show off her vocals while still intermingling the crowd pleasing things that will endear her to a larger fan base. She probably already has the majority of the older crowd on her side and a song like last night appeals more to that base but if she would do things to allow her personality to be more on display and have fun with the crowd (along the lines of what she did with "Bringing Out the Elvis in Me") it would help her tremendously if she really wants to win this thing. Look at Kellie's performance last night, her vocals were mediocre at best with a song that really didn't fit her at all but with the rocker chick image and the movement out into the crowd and the "getting down on the knees" thing she does, she pulled in a ton of votes with her performance though I truly can't imagine a large number of people paying just to hear her vocals on a CD. I'm not saying she needs to go to the Taylor extreme of acting intoxicated half the time but a little more playing to the crowd I believe would go a LONG way for Kat with the demographic she needs to put her over the top.
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04/12/2006 3:42 PM Alert 
I'm not saying she needs to go to the Taylor extreme of acting intoxicated half the time


That would be freakin hilarious.....KAT would probably take at least half the Taylor Hicks votes.
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04/12/2006 4:03 PM Alert 
Ok, well to start off I am 17 years old, and I know I'm among the minority in these forums because most people are adults. I've been a huge Kat fan from the beginning because I (unlike so many young people these days) have a true appreciation for music and talent. I am also a musician myself which I believe is the reason that I can see Kat's obvious talent.

Ya'll are all right that she doesn't necessarily appeal to the younger people in mass because she's not blonde and naive, a loud rocker, or a spasmatic soul singer. =) People my age usually have a difficult time processing true talent, and I'll be the first to say that.

What I would tell Katharine is simple... Katharine, baby, you don't have to prove to us that you can sing. =)

All of the serious Kat fans (like us) will vote for her no matter what. She did an amazing performance last night, but I doubt she had a lot of McPheever converts last night. In my opinion, she has the best chance to gain new voters. When people's favorites get voted off, they all have to find someone new to vote for, right? Well Chris, Taylor and Kellie are Kat's competition as I see it currently. Chris - He already has the rocker votes, and I can't see him gaining the votes off any of the other contestants. Taylor - it's a love him or you hate him kind of thing. If you love him, you're already voting for him. Kellie - I think she already has her fanbase - let's just put it that way.

Basically, to sum up my long and drawn out conclusion - Kat needs a fun performance, a performance that completely blows us all away, and a performance that will infect the rest of America with the McPheever. We know she can sing. She needs to have some fun on the stage and prove that she really has the whole package. She needs another "Think" performance, and she needs the judges to seriously believe in her.


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04/12/2006 4:12 PM Alert 

I don't think Kat really enjoys dancing, jumping, and running around the stage when she sings. Like you guys said, she had already picked a more upbeat song originally but she decided to change in the last minute. In the clips before the singing, she said she wanted to sing a song that is not that up-tempo and just wants to concentrate on the lyrics and the singing, instead of running aroung the stage. And she's pretty determined and consistent about that regardless of whether people like it or not. Maybe she really hates that style. I'm pretty sure she also knows the consequence of her determination.

Then why be on American Idol?  Carrie didn't like it either, but she chose a lot better songs and moved around enough to win it.  She looks like she has a LOT of fun when she sings something upbeat.  She doesn't have to run around and be jumping all over the place like Taylor, but I thought Kellie (gulp) did an ok job last night.  Almost everyone's favorite performance is "Think" (at least 2nd favorite), and that is because she looked like she was having fun.  I guess being comfortable with something and pleasing your fans can be two totally different things. 

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04/12/2006 4:58 PM Alert 
Posted By slice on 04/12/2006 3:42 PM
I'm not saying she needs to go to the Taylor extreme of acting intoxicated half the time


That would be freakin hilarious.....KAT would probably take at least half the Taylor Hicks votes.

Too funny...and that gives me an idea for a Theme Show...having the contestants doing  a parody of another AI contestant...Kat mimics Taylor...Bucky does Ace...Kellie does Elliott...Elliott mimics Paris...Paris does Chris...Chris does Kat...and Taylor mimics Ace...now that's a show I would love to watch, and the make-up and wardrobe crew could really have some fun!

But, back to the topic....I agree that Kat doesn't have to go to extremes....just push the envelope a little more...and show more of her diversity.

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04/12/2006 5:26 PM Alert 
Posted By winnpoober on 04/12/2006 1:24 PM
My opinion is that taking a risk is a double edge sword. Taking a risk like Ace took a risk is not working to his favor. Whether Kat takes a risk or not is besides the point. She needs a top notch performance each week. She needs to blow them all away. She needs for Simon to say "Wow Katharine....that was the performance to beat" or "With that performance I think you will be the next idol". Then and only then I can truly believe that she will take the title.

I remembered last year when Simon said that of Carrie and I think her fan base doubled after that. She already has the beauty to go with it. She has the voice. She just needs that performance of her life...something even Taylor fans (who consistently puts him up top each week) could say, "nah, Taylor does not need to win this contest. Let's vote for Kat".


 

winnpoober...The obvious distinction between Kat taking a risk vs Ace is that (sorry Ace) Kat has more talent and can deliver on a calculated risk...and, with all due respect...you mentioned 'Whether Kat takes a risk or not is besides the point...' no, that's exactly my point in this thread... 

I agree Kat needs a top notch performance each week...but my interest is in exploring what risks she must take, and when they should be taken, in order to achieve a wider demographic appeal. However if you feel no risks/changes should be made, that’s fair enough too.

I have recommended a 'sooner than later' risk-taking approach because I feel it is the most opportune time to do so, given my assumption (belief) that there are at least two or three  other contestants who will be eliminated before the contest gets down to some really heavy choices to be made by the public.

To maintain the status quo and change nothing might work…but I personally don’t think it will be enough for Kat, and if she is going to do something different – like a more risky song selection or more animated performance, I’d rather she does it now before the voters of the soon-to-be eliminated contestants gravitate to another surviving contestant.

 

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04/12/2006 5:37 PM Alert 

Ok, I'm over 40, and I was bowled over by "Since I Fell For You", and "Until You Come Back To Me". Those performances showed us how strong her vocals are. And she was comfortable singing them, probably because she grew up hearing her mom sing them, and from the students using them. Now, she has to enter a world of different themes that maybe she's not too familiar with. I love this girl to the max, she has great appeal in all areas. I agree she needs to expand, so to speak. I think she'll do well with Rod Stewart tunes. She's not going to be the next Pink or Christina Aguilera. She will bring her own style to whatever she does. The judges see her as Broadway, which may be keeping her as an older crowd favorite. But she's really good, and most fans know that. My sister-in-law said to me "she knows she's good", but Kat isn't her favorite. She likes Chris and Taylor.

 

I think if she mixed a little Chris style and a little Taylor style, and rocked out on something like "Stay With Me", she'd win a few more votes from everywhere. She could pull something off like that and go all the way. But maybe she just doesn't want to stray too far from her roots. I got that feeling last night, when she changed her song.

 

Either way, win or lose, we will definitely be seeing more of Kat. No doubt in my mind.


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Posted By JxAxDxExD on 04/12/2006 4:03 PM
Ok, well to start off I am 17 years old, and I know I'm among the minority in these forums because most people are adults. I've been a huge Kat fan from the beginning because I (unlike so many young people these days) have a true appreciation for music and talent. I am also a musician myself which I believe is the reason that I