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06/05/2006 5:29 PM Alert 
^Frankly, I doubt that Kat can ever become a real power belter. God gave her a glorious voice, but not an especially powerful one. I've noticed that Kat's breathing tends to be noticable on alot of her songs, and I think that is because the sound technicians need to "pot up" her mic to get a good mix with the instrumentals. I've also noticed through the years- and any singers here can chime in- that the best power belters are not particularly good with their head voice at lower volumes. Some, it seems, can barely sing at all without belting. Mandissa seemed to have this problem, and even Carrie doesn't really hit her stride until she can belt out the chorus. Of course I'm sure there are many exceptions.
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06/05/2006 5:46 PM Alert 
You know, sometimes I'm not sure I'm understanding all of what I'm reading, but it's nice to hear people having an intellectual discussion that gets past hair extensions, boyfriends and cleavage. Not that those things don't have an intrinsic fascination all their own, I suppose, but I can't do it forever. And as a second-generation musician, I find threads like this of particular interest. Most of the talent actually resides one generation behind me, but I was raised by people to whom music was as necessary as air, more fun than baseball, and just part of the languge they naturally spoke. And sometimes I miss all that.

I noticed the bit about the breathing too. I assume that's one of the things the techies bleep out in the studio, but in live performances you can usually hear every breath. For some reason i like that, it makes everything seem more alive and immediate and real. Then the recorded version becomes technically perfect but missing something.
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06/05/2006 6:24 PM Alert 
Posted By bcollan on 06/05/2006 10:10 AM
Posted By underwoodfan23 on 06/05/2006 9:37 AM
as much as i would LOVE her to have the role, I think that might not be the best career move for a few reasons...

1) The play is so well loved and I just hope the filming it doesn't ruin it!

2) Fans of Idina would probably HATE Kat!

But, Kat will do whatever she feels is right and I will, as always, support her! Good luck, Kat!

This worries me also. Idina has an especially rabid fanbase who would get very upset if Idina isn't in the film. Plus Idina is an extremely talented power belter, so the role has become associated with big, powereful numbers such as "The Wizard and I", "Defying Gravity" and "No good Deed" which aren't Kat's strength. And of course poor green Elphie isn't supposed to be all that beautiful (no offense Idina, your're lovely too). To me Kat is "Not That Girl". She's much more of a "Popular" type, and with her clear sopranno and a blond wig would be a much better G(a)linda.




Oh, no.  I'm so sorry, but I think I may be one of those people that would partially hate Kat.  I LOVE KAT and still love her, don't get me wrong, but I was first a fan of Wicked and Idina is one of my top two idols.  I just can't imagine Wicked without Idina.  I mean, even now with a different cast on Broadway, none of them seem even close to being as perfect for the role as Idina, as well as Kristin Chenoweth's role as Glinda.  This topic was on a Wicked fan forum and a lot of them hated the idea.  I defended Kat, but I partially agreed.  But I'd love Kat to be in a different movie.
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06/05/2006 7:43 PM Alert 
Hey everyone! I'm new here, but I just saw this topic and felt the need to post

first of all, let me start off by saying i absolutely ADORE kat, and I was ALREADY hoping she'd do wicked on broadway the MINUTE I heard her. She's make a fabulous elphaba, no doubt about it. However, that being said- I am an AVID idina fan, and the way I really got to love idina was through wicked. And.. as much as I adore kat and would be PHSYCHED if she ever did elphaba on broadway, I truly TRULY feel that if this movie is going to be done in the near future, it NEEDS to be with idina. If idina couldn't do it for some reason, or didn't have the desire to, then Kat would absolutely be my second choice- but idina just.. IS elphie. She created this character and basically BECAME this character, and I firmly believe that NO ONE could do the part like idina can And I know I'm not alone- i can't imagine anyone who's seen idina do it would believe otherwise. So, basically, I truly believe that Idina is the ONLY one who could do the movie. And more than that, I really dont think it would be at ALL fair if she wasn't cast. A lot of people might say that at 35 she's pushing it to be playing a college student- but if you've seen her you'll probably know that she looks absolutely not a DAY under 25 at oldest (I mean, does she look 35 to you? haha) she is absoltuely stunning (as is Kat, for the record), so that really would not be an issue. If this were, say, in 10 years, when Idina would undoubtedly be too old, then I would be EXTATIC to see Kat playing elphie. But the fact is idina CAN stil play elphie, and I just feel like it would be completely unjust to let ANYONE, even the amazing kat, do the role instead of her. Now, if Kat wanted to come to broadway and play elphie, I'd be there in a SECOND haha

sorry guys for the long rant, I'm just really opinionated about this haha and felt the need to say something about it. Anway, I shall go introduce myself in the introduction section- these boards seem awesome and I fully intend to get involved, as, as I've said, I LOVE KAT! l

*oh, side note- for the record, idina is absolutely UNBELIEVABLE, both as a singer and an actress, and I highly recommend checking out some stuff- you'll very quickly come to adore her ;) as a matter of fact, when I saw kat the first thing I thought was "wow, she reminds me sooooo much of idina!" not so much in the looks or the voice even, but just... something about kat is so.. idina like! haha
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06/05/2006 7:44 PM Alert 
I love where this conversation is going! So interesting. And we are the best fans there are; the kind that don't say "YES" to everything, but "that's an interesting idea, but I think she would do better with..." That is how people improve, yes?

Oh and thanks for the Wikipedia definition for "soprano". Sounds like I'm a soprano after all! I guess that because I can sing alto parts and that notes above the high C are painful, I assumed that I was a mezzo. hm. I learn new things every day.
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06/05/2006 9:59 PM Alert 
Welcome snl89!

I certainly hear you about Idina. Steven risks getting trampled by angry fangirls if he casts *anyone* else as Elphie. But then I doubt the movie he makes will be a simple film adaption of 'Wicked'. I'm thinking it may be a drama with music rather than a musical, and it may include 'Wizard of Oz' material too. But of course it's all speculation.
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06/05/2006 10:01 PM Alert 
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06/05/2006 10:21 PM Alert 
1) Spielberg turned down filming "Phantom of the Opera", because he wanted to wait for a musical that gave him the oppurtunity to feature dialouge as well as musical numbers. Obviously Spielberg is an accomplished, respected director. He has been waiting a long time for the right musical to come along, and I have faith that he would bring "Wicked" to screen with success.

2) It doesn't matter who is cast, if it isn't Idina as Elphaba in the film, the fans will throw a fit. I followed the production of the "Phantom of the Opera" film rather obsessively, and the fans wanted Sarah Brightman (who was part of the original cast) to be cast as Christine. If she were too old for the part, they wanted another Broadway actress. 16 year old Emmy Rossum was cast instead, and a lot of the hardcore fans hated her. It didn't matter. Critics and audiences loved her, she earned awards and even a Golden Globe nomination. Bottom line, the haters will always find something to hate -- but they are bias, and despite the noise they make online, it will do nothing to upset their careers.

And as for Katharine being too beautiful for the Elphaba role: from seeing the play, I never thought Elphaba was necessarily ugly. Just green. People couldn't see past that.

Now, this seems to still be a RUMOR. Lets not get our hopes up to high just yet. But seeing Katharine in a musical, let alone one directed by Spielberg, let alone it being "WICKED"...would be a dream come true!
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06/05/2006 10:33 PM Alert 
Posted By AI12345 on 06/05/2006 8:44 AM
I will literally die if that is what he wants Katharine for. That would be amazing! The role of Elphaba would be perfect for her..

Hi Laurie!

I remember you saying on the other site a few months ago how Katharine would be great in "Wicked".  Do you also remember dremomma Diane saying that Kat constantly sang "Defying Gravity" - well maybe her dream will come true !!!
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06/05/2006 10:39 PM Alert 

On average, the female voice isn't fully developed until the age of 25. For men it is even older. Yes, Katharine still has room to grow, and her vocal power and range will improve and gain strength, especially if she continues her lessons.

You would be surprised by how many singers in the industry today do not have vocal training. Some of the best singers of today do not. Do I think it was a mistake for Kat to leave the Boston Conservatory? To be honest, no. For one thing, Katharine will be working with some of the best instructors the music world has to offer. Secondly, a lot of what you would learn in a college setting, you can learn through private training. You might miss out on certain things, but nothing too distinguishable -- especially if you've had the experience she has had.

As for the last question, the more you sing the better you become. By doing so, you're exercising your throat muscles, making them stronger which allows you to have better tone/more power/all that. I would think that Katharine would actually be training more before recording her CD, but thats the one thing I'm not sure of how that all works out.
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06/06/2006 12:14 AM Alert 
As a big fan of Katharine as well as Wicked, I think this is a really interesting thread. But one of the main questions which most of us cannot yet answer is, What are Kat's skills as an actress? This will be especially important if the movie version is more dialogue-based than the musical. I personally believe that her voice and look would be great for the part of Elphaba, but it will certainly be a very demanding role on many levels.
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Posted By megustajake on 06/05/2006 10:21 PM
1) Spielberg turned down filming "Phantom of the Opera", because he wanted to wait for a musical that gave him the oppurtunity to feature dialouge as well as musical numbers. Obviously Spielberg is an accomplished, respected director. He has been waiting a long time for the right musical to come along, and I have faith that he would bring "Wicked" to screen with success.

2) It doesn't matter who is cast, if it isn't Idina as Elphaba in the film, the fans will throw a fit. I followed the production of the "Phantom of the Opera" film rather obsessively, and the fans wanted Sarah Brightman (who was part of the original cast) to be cast as Christine. If she were too old for the part, they wanted another Broadway actress. 16 year old Emmy Rossum was cast instead, and a lot of the hardcore fans hated her. It didn't matter. Critics and audiences loved her, she earned awards and even a Golden Globe nomination. Bottom line, the haters will always find something to hate -- but they are bias, and despite the noise they make online, it will do nothing to upset their careers.

 

Interesting, I thought the young male lead opposite Emmy was kind of weak in the movie version of Phantom. I had heard they wanted Antonio Banderas for Phantom and possibly Hugh Jackman for his rival, but they had to back out due to scheduling conflicts  
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06/06/2006 9:45 AM Alert 
i personally think that Kat can make a great Elphie, although i definitely looooved Idina as Elphie. but i think if the whole idea why Speilberg wishes to cast Kat over Idina for a movie is maybe because Kat is the younger one, and like someone said that Steve wanted a younger cast, and maybe Steve thinks that Idina Menzel would not entirely fit as a movie actress, because she's really really good on Broadway. but whatever, i'd love to see kat in any movie i'd watch it in a heartbeat. let alone it's a musical film! gosh! i hope it pushes through!
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06/06/2006 9:49 AM Alert 
Well, Idina does work as a movie actress as well. Take a look at Rent (the movie). Idina was in the original cast and in the movie cast. I believe she is awesome in that one. Both Idina and Kat will work great in the movie version.
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06/06/2006 11:22 AM Alert 
Wicked is really different than the wizard of oz. It concentrates on the actual witches.
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06/06/2006 11:58 AM Alert 
Whatever site this is completely made up the part about Kat playing Elphaba.

This whole thing originated from an article Breath of Fresh Ink posted up a little while ago about Kat possibly being casted in an Oz remake.

Here's a link to the original article: Steven Spielberg Casts Katharine McPhee In Oz Remake?

The celebrity gossip blog in the original post in this thread obviously took what was written at Breath of Fresh Ink and ran with it. Tsk, tsk.
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Posted By groucho on 06/05/2006 11:27 AM
If true, there's good news and there's bad news.

Good: This is a movie. Nothing done in one take. It's not like one shot live with Simon waiting to pounce. If the vocal requirements are a stretch for her, they can give her time to stretch and film her at her best.

Bad: Two hours of Katharine I can (eventually) buy and watch at my leisure without having to fight a VCR, DVD, or anything, and she's GREEN! Argh!!
I'm with Groucho on this one.  I wonder how "attractive" they will make her look if this whole thing is legit.  Who cares...its kat!
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06/06/2006 2:53 PM Alert 
I think it's time to chill out on this story and wait for the meeting with Spielberg to happen. If the major media ever picked up on the rumor and it doesn't pan out, it would be an embarrassment to Katharine. If the meeting is next week, hopefully we'll find out something definite at that time.

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06/06/2006 3:12 PM Alert 
I'm pretty sure the meeting was to take place today.
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Posted By jolie05 on 06/06/2006 9:49 AM
Well, Idina does work as a movie actress as well. Take a look at Rent (the movie). Idina was in the original cast and in the movie cast. I believe she is awesome in that one. Both Idina and Kat will work great in the movie version.


I think 'Rents' problem as a movie was that everyone had felt that they had already seen the show and the cast before. If they re-cast 'Wicked' with young stars like Beyonce in Dreamgirls is doing, they way do better at the box office (see 'High School Musical')
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06/06/2006 5:49 PM Alert 
It all kinda boils down to "damned if you do, damned if you don't," doesn't it? Pi--ed off purist fans vs. bored/jaded viewers who want something new. I just want to see her walking around on a big screen for a couple of hours. Preferably with both singing and acting going on. Right now wondering when she's going to have time to rehearse with Andrea with all this other stuff going on. She might have to learn some songs in Italian!
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06/06/2006 9:19 PM Alert 
OK, so I started one of these Wicked threads based on flimsy rumours and gossip blogs BUT

The reality is that Kat has mega-buzz; she is a versatile actress and singer, the Speilberg rumor has been around for weeks and not denied and he has the rights to Wicked.

Putting it all together I think it is reasonable to speculate that he is looking at Kat for this. Lets face it he has the "MCPHEEVER".

And why not. We all do. And its wildly contagious.

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06/07/2006 2:39 PM Alert 
If anything, I really hope the film version of WICKED does *not* cast Idina Menzel as Elphaba. I was a total RENThead, and though I love Idina's voice, she was just awful in the film version of RENT.

And, quite frankly, I felt the need for RENT to have the original cast suffocated the film. Sadly, they were just. too. old. I would much prefer a fresh, bright, new cast for the film version of Wicked, despite my love for Idina and ESPECIALLY the faaabulous Kristin Chenowith.

And Emmy Rossum as Christine Daae -- as someone else said -- was great for the film. I LOVE Sarah Brightman, but you have to be realistic with these types of casting! I very much prefer fresh, new talent!

And besides -- Kat had said she would have loved to do Christine Daae in Phantom. ;) Having a role in the film version of Wicked seems right up her alley! Let's keep our fingers crossed!
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06/08/2006 2:55 PM Alert 
  I really want to see Kat in Wicked and she would be purrfect for Elphie.

But,    I hope they don't make her toooo green.   Just a little off-color maybe???
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06/08/2006 3:43 PM Alert 
I read an interview with Spielberg once that said he had made a list of actors/actresses that he would like to work with, and he goes through that list from the top down, meaning that if he has

1) Bob,
2) Bill
3) Spongebob

He'll work with Bob before he works with Bill, and then spongebob.

This means that Katharine McPhee is on the top of his list(WOW!!!!).

Congratulations Kat!
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