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I'm not too clear what the rules are regarding negative comments toward Non-Kat topics, so I hope this is okay....

I chose choice number three because Taylor has actually got a fantastic voice for his genre. I've checked out some of his Pre-Idol tracks and was very impressed with his abilities as an artist.

Regarding his voice on Idol, however...He fell flat too often for me to believe the American public chose him based on his onstage performance only. Remember "Take Me Home..." or "Not Fade Away" I admit to LOVING "In the Ghetto" and "You Are So beautiful" was nice because they were withing his range.

When he did upbeat stuff, his voice didn't "reverberate," which is a pet peeve of mine. Kat is really one of the only people whose voice echoes with little effort, so I find it difficult to appreciate a "staid" vocal. Remember "I've Had the Time of My Life?" Perfect grounds for comparison.

My aunt (who had never seen idol before) came in while I was playing the duet back on my computer and said "Oh no, he shouldn't have one...His voice isn't "there."  Okay, I'm done venting. I've been bursting to tell my true opinion of Taylor's voice forever now, but I'd hate to be called a basher. I hope I'm not breaking any rules or anything.


P.S. I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

Their singing doesn't even come close to Katharine's caliber.

Anyway, I've never understood the whole Taylor appeal. I thought all he did was dance...

American Idol USED TO BE a show where the best singer (or one of the best singers) in the competition ended up winning. That wasn't the case this year.
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Posted By ajm1531 on 06/14/2006 3:42 PM
I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

Their singing doesn't even come close to Katharine's caliber.

Anyway, I've never understood the whole Taylor appeal. I thought all he did was dance...

American Idol USED TO BE a show where the best singer (or one of the best singers) in the competition ended up winning. That wasn't the case this year.


Right on the money.

"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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06/15/2006 12:20 AM Alert 
The thing I don't understand about AI is what's the point of dancing and stage performance? Now AI is over and he is releaseing his albums. Did he dance in the studio while recording? Do all the Soul Patrol see him dancing through their CD playback? If AI is looking for an entertainer to do live shows, I can understand. But the purpose of AI is looking for a singer to record album, right? Did anyone question why Andrea Bocelli doesn't dance on stage? Does he have any stage performance? I don't know how to answer.
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Posted By ajm1531 on 06/14/2006 3:42 PM
I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

Their singing doesn't even come close to Katharine's caliber.

Anyway, I've never understood the whole Taylor appeal. I thought all he did was dance...

American Idol USED TO BE a show where the best singer (or one of the best singers) in the competition ended up winning. That wasn't the case this year.
Well, that's still subjective. It's all opinion. Not everyone's taste is the same. I know many, many people who love Fantasia's voice, but I know many who hate it.  

Taylor did win. You can debate if he should have or not, but more fans got out and voted for him. Bottom line. The fans are the one who will buy the CDs, not those picky about the technicalities of singing.  

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06/17/2006 7:09 PM Alert 
I like Taylor's voice a lot. He and Katharine and Chris, actually, were my three favorites coming out of the auditions. So I was glad that Taylor and Kat were in the finale. Of course, I would have preferred that Kat won, but that's over now and I'm looking ahead.

My opinion of Taylor is that I'm not sure exactly how much radio time he's ever going to get. We don't know how much Kat will get either, but if Taylor does a non-mainstream album, which he is likely to do and should do given his voice, the top 40 stations aren't going to play him, and thus he may, after his first album, not get a lot of new fans.

That seems to be one of the sad realities of AI. The winner's initial album hits it big because of the fan base, but then it rarely gets any radio time, and thus the person kinds of drops out of the spotlight. The only songs I ever hear on the radio by past Idol people are Kelly and Carrie. Where is everyone else?

That's my worry about Taylor, and my worry about Kat as well. The good thing about Kat, however, is that she's going to try a pop album, at least that's the implication, and thus she may get more radio time than Taylor. It has to be a good album, but I'm sure it will be. She has a lot of good people working with her, and she's going to be incredible in the studio. It all comes down to good choices at this point. Kat's voice is strong enough to break into the mainstream. Taylor's? It is but will it? Without his face-to-face act on stage, will his voice carry him?

I hope it does, actually, because he deserves success. They both do.
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Posted By kenndawg316 on 06/15/2006 2:11 AM
Posted By ajm1531 on 06/14/2006 3:42 PM
I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

Their singing doesn't even come close to Katharine's caliber.

Anyway, I've never understood the whole Taylor appeal. I thought all he did was dance...

American Idol USED TO BE a show where the best singer (or one of the best singers) in the competition ended up winning. That wasn't the case this year.
Well, that's still subjective. It's all opinion. Not everyone's taste is the same. I know many, many people who love Fantasia's voice, but I know many who hate it.  

Taylor did win. You can debate if he should have or not, but more fans got out and voted for him. Bottom line. The fans are the one who will buy the CDs, not those picky about the technicalities of singing.  



I have never bought the "it's all subjective" arguments when it comes to who is the best singer. Outside of one's personal preferences there are objective metrics that can be used to determine who in any group is the most skilled vocalist. I mean it's just doesn't fly to say "Well I think Kevin Covais is a better singer than Andrea Bocelli  that's my opinion so it can be right or wrong" because  it is without a doubt wrong.

I really believe feel despite the size of the SP If Kat had brought her "A game" every single week of the competition there is no way she would have lost.
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Posted By Sonny on 06/17/2006 8:15 PM
Posted By kenndawg316 on 06/15/2006 2:11 AM
Posted By ajm1531 on 06/14/2006 3:42 PM
I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

Their singing doesn't even come close to Katharine's caliber.

Anyway, I've never understood the whole Taylor appeal. I thought all he did was dance...

American Idol USED TO BE a show where the best singer (or one of the best singers) in the competition ended up winning. That wasn't the case this year.
Well, that's still subjective. It's all opinion. Not everyone's taste is the same. I know many, many people who love Fantasia's voice, but I know many who hate it.  

Taylor did win. You can debate if he should have or not, but more fans got out and voted for him. Bottom line. The fans are the one who will buy the CDs, not those picky about the technicalities of singing.  



I have never bought the "it's all subjective" arguments when it comes to who is the best singer. Outside of one's personal preferences there are objective metrics that can be used to determine who in any group is the most skilled vocalist. I mean it's just doesn't fly to say "Well I think Kevin Covais is a better singer than Andrea Bocelli  that's my opinion so it can be right or wrong" because  it is without a doubt wrong.

I really believe feel despite the size of the SP If Kat had brought her "A game" every single week of the competition there is no way she would have lost.

In theory that sounds perfect, but the truth of the matter is she would have been criticized for being "too perfect."
 
Plus Taylor had his share of bomb performances (Easy, Not Fade Away, Take Me home...) and definitely didn't "bring it" every week (unless you're talkig about his dancing). Fortunately for him they came early on in the competition.

And your right about the "it's all subjective." Fact: Taylor was vocally the worst of the top six after Bucky, Kevin and Ace went home. He is very limited on what he can do with his voice.

"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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Posted By NothlitHawk777 on 06/17/2006 10:58 PM
Posted By Sonny on 06/17/2006 8:15 PM
Posted By kenndawg316 on 06/15/2006 2:11 AM
Posted By ajm1531 on 06/14/2006 3:42 PM
I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

Their singing doesn't even come close to Katharine's caliber.

Anyway, I've never understood the whole Taylor appeal. I thought all he did was dance...

American Idol USED TO BE a show where the best singer (or one of the best singers) in the competition ended up winning. That wasn't the case this year.
Well, that's still subjective. It's all opinion. Not everyone's taste is the same. I know many, many people who love Fantasia's voice, but I know many who hate it.  

Taylor did win. You can debate if he should have or not, but more fans got out and voted for him. Bottom line. The fans are the one who will buy the CDs, not those picky about the technicalities of singing.  



I have never bought the "it's all subjective" arguments when it comes to who is the best singer. Outside of one's personal preferences there are objective metrics that can be used to determine who in any group is the most skilled vocalist. I mean it's just doesn't fly to say "Well I think Kevin Covais is a better singer than Andrea Bocelli  that's my opinion so it can be right or wrong" because  it is without a doubt wrong.

I really believe feel despite the size of the SP If Kat had brought her "A game" every single week of the competition there is no way she would have lost.

In theory that sounds perfect, but the truth of the matter is she would have been criticized for being "too perfect."
 
Plus Taylor had his share of bomb performances (Easy, Not Fade Away, Take Me home...) and definitely didn't "bring it" every week (unless you're talkig about his dancing). Fortunately for him they came early on in the competition.

And your right about the "it's all subjective." Fact: Taylor was vocally the worst of the top six after Bucky, Kevin and Ace went home. He is very limited on what he can do with his voice.
Yes after SWTWOM Simon did come out and say something along the lines of "She's sounding and looking too perfect and that can work against her" but what I am saying is that if she had brought that to the following weeks as well as the finale night not only would her fanbase have grown she would have "shamed" the casual voters into voting for her. I realise it's a heck of a lot easier said than done especially considering her vocal problems on finale night.

Regarding bad performances, while it's true Taylor's bad performances were in the earlier rounds of the competition, I also feel that since the standard for him is not a high as Kat, a bad performance from him was like falling from a one-story building.Whereas with Kat when she goes from SWTWOM to Against all odds and that is a much longer and harder fall.

But in the end  there is no rule stating that the technically best singer must win and many Taylor fans I've seen on the AI board concede while he may not be techincally the best, his genre/voice/dancing appealed to them the most. Since there is nothing wrong with that I am not really debating anything here.

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06/18/2006 3:29 AM Alert 
Posted By Sonny on 06/18/2006 2:47 AM
Posted By NothlitHawk777 on 06/17/2006 10:58 PM
Posted By Sonny on 06/17/2006 8:15 PM
Posted By kenndawg316 on 06/15/2006 2:11 AM
Posted By ajm1531 on 06/14/2006 3:42 PM
I always found it amusing when Taylor/Chris/Elliot fans have the nerve to say Kat has a limited range...hypocrites

Their singing doesn't even come close to Katharine's caliber.

Anyway, I've never understood the whole Taylor appeal. I thought all he did was dance...

American Idol USED TO BE a show where the best singer (or one of the best singers) in the competition ended up winning. That wasn't the case this year.
Well, that's still subjective. It's all opinion. Not everyone's taste is the same. I know many, many people who love Fantasia's voice, but I know many who hate it.  

Taylor did win. You can debate if he should have or not, but more fans got out and voted for him. Bottom line. The fans are the one who will buy the CDs, not those picky about the technicalities of singing.  



I have never bought the "it's all subjective" arguments when it comes to who is the best singer. Outside of one's personal preferences there are objective metrics that can be used to determine who in any group is the most skilled vocalist. I mean it's just doesn't fly to say "Well I think Kevin Covais is a better singer than Andrea Bocelli  that's my opinion so it can be right or wrong" because  it is without a doubt wrong.

I really believe feel despite the size of the SP If Kat had brought her "A game" every single week of the competition there is no way she would have lost.

In theory that sounds perfect, but the truth of the matter is she would have been criticized for being "too perfect."
 
Plus Taylor had his share of bomb performances (Easy, Not Fade Away, Take Me home...) and definitely didn't "bring it" every week (unless you're talkig about his dancing). Fortunately for him they came early on in the competition.

And your right about the "it's all subjective." Fact: Taylor was vocally the worst of the top six after Bucky, Kevin and Ace went home. He is very limited on what he can do with his voice.
Yes after SWTWOM Simon did come out and say something along the lines of "She's sounding and looking too perfect and that can work against her" but what I am saying is that if she had brought that to the following weeks as well as the finale night not only would her fanbase have grown she would have "shamed" the casual voters into voting for her. I realise it's a heck of a lot easier said than done especially considering her vocal problems on finale night.

Regarding bad performances, while it's true Taylor's bad performances were in the earlier rounds of the competition, I also feel that since the standard for him is not a high as Kat, a bad performance from him was like falling from a one-story building.Whereas with Kat when she goes from SWTWOM to Against all odds and that is a much longer and harder fall.

But in the end  there is no rule stating that the technically best singer must win and many Taylor fans I've seen on the AI board concede while he may not be techincally the best, his genre/voice/dancing appealed to them the most. Since there is nothing wrong with that I am not really debating anything here.


So true...People expected him to dance and have fun and maybe do a little bit of competent singing every now and then. Unfortnately, Kat had alot of great, memorable "moments," so when she sings SOTR and then Nothin But The Blues, or from Since I fell For You to All is Fair in Love  (Even from STWOM to I Have Nothing), people are taken to criticizing her when the truth of the matter is those performances would be good, great even, on any other contestant, but not Kat since she created such a fantastic "moment" the week before and didn't bring over the magic to the next week. With taylor it was just week after week of so-so vocal performances, and his best were the slower tempoed songs that were underdemanding vocally (In The Getto, You Are So Beautiful).

Truth be told, I don't think the technically best singer has ever won Idol. The closest would be Kelly, though some Tamara was better. Reuben wasn't better than Clay. Fantasia couldn't match the voices of Jennifer or Latoya. Carrie...? I'm not sure (though I did vote for her). The problem was this year Taylor, vocally, wasn't the best by a LONG SHOT. He just, for the most part, made smart song choices that required more dancing than singing and covered up any inadequacies on his part. He played Idol well. He seemed to know what America wanted, and his confidence never faltered. Though I still find it amusing though most of his "soul patrol" never heard of Joe Cocker and don't listen to Ray Charles yet feel validated that Taylor was better than Kat because he has "soul." Not saying he doesn't, but, seriously, like they know what "real" soul is....

"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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Yes, I forgot about the good or even really good performances like Nothin But the Blues that were panned just because the preceding performance was "The best of the season" or "Brilliant" which further made her a victim of high expectations. It's like in grammar school when the teacher rides the prodigy and chastises him for not renventing the wheel or the Lakers Coach riding Kobe for not scoring 40 points a game. "Yeah you may have scored 28 points tonight but you can do better."

Now regarding the "flat" quality of Taylor's voice, it was really out there for all to hear during the verses of DIMYP on finale night. Oddly enough for me that is the only song where he doesn't sound like a Micheal Mcdonald/Joe Cocker impersonator.

As Chris found out, whether or not someone is more cumulative rather than based on a single night. That being said, we suffered a major setback during elvis night, we lost all of our momentum and went from competiting for frontrunner status to underdog or even thought to be unjustly still in the competiton.

I wonder if Taylor's appeal is exclusively American. If Idol had been held in the EU one must wonder if he would have prevailed there or if he would have even made their top 12. Interesting thing about Simon, he rejected Taylor at the outset, trashed him week after week  but around the Top 4 once he realised Taylor would likely be the AI he did a complete 180 with his critiques.

Very Interesting..
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Posted By Sonny on 06/18/2006 4:56 AM
Yes, I forgot about the good or even really good performances like Nothin But the Blues that were panned just because the preceding performance was "The best of the season" or "Brilliant" which further made her a victim of high expectations. It's like in grammar school when the teacher rides the prodigy and chastises him for not renventing the wheel or the Lakers Coach riding Kobe for not scoring 40 points a game. "Yeah you may have scored 28 points tonight but you can do better."

Now regarding the "flat" quality of Taylor's voice, it was really out there for all to hear during the verses of DIMYP on finale night. Oddly enough for me that is the only song where he doesn't sound like a Micheal Mcdonald/Joe Cocker impersonator.

As Chris found out, whether or not someone is more cumulative rather than based on a single night. That being said, we suffered a major setback during elvis night, we lost all of our momentum and went from competiting for frontrunner status to underdog or even thought to be unjustly still in the competiton.

I wonder if Taylor's appeal is exclusively American. If Idol had been held in the EU one must wonder if he would have prevailed there or if he would have even made their top 12. Interesting thing about Simon, he rejected Taylor at the outset, trashed him week after week  but around the Top 4 once he realised Taylor would likely be the AI he did a complete 180 with his critiques.

Very Interesting..


Haha...To be fair, Simon never even thought Kat could make the top seven let alone three or two. On occasion, he'd say she "was in a completely different class." Simon knew she was too good for idol in so many ways, so naturally the public wouldn't vote for her "perfection." I don't remember him addressing her specifically, but when making his top lists, he'd simply say, "i know what America likes."

I'd say Kat was given the short stick on ELvis night. Simon made Hound Dog seem worse than it was, and then Kat got screwed for the arrangement of CHFIL. Last year when Carrie sang If You Don't Know Me By Now, Simon spoke up and blamed the arrangement, but with Kat he made it seem like the oversinging was her fault when I truly, TRULY doubt the contestants create their own vocal arrangements.

And I wouldn't say he did a complete turnabout because he always responded well to Taylor's more subdued performances, which is why he trashed him for Jailhouse Rock (rightfully so) and praised him for In the Ghetto. Livin' For the City was one of the few songs that Simon liked by Taylor, and he did criticize him for Levon (someone should have taped Paula's mouth...I could see smoke rising).

In the last couple of weeks, Simon was the only honestly constructive judge left. Even when Kat did SOTR, Paula was still giving Elliot and Taylor better responses to their performances. Randy didn't knock Taylor for a Joe Cocker or Otis Redding impersonation, but as soon as Kat wants to sing "Blues," making it COMPLETELY her own, she's "comparing herself." That's a classic wtf moment.

I've seen a few overseas Taylor fans, but I'm still confident that Kat would have won anywhere else in the world. People were prejudiced against her wealth because she lived with her parents in Sherman Oaks, an upper class neighborhood, but they failed to notice Taylor's southern riches as a dentist's son simply because of geography and the fact that the house he lives in WHEN HE'S FORCED TO MAKE HIS OWN LIVING was complete junk. I'd like to see his dad's house.

DIMYP is completely the wrong song for Taylor. Far out of his range and genre. It exposes his vocals for what they are when he's really singing and not impersonating. This was doubly clear on finale night when Kat had to clean up his vocal mess not once, not twice, but three times. First for I Made It Through the Rain, the Burt Bacarach Medley, and the final duet. Kat was impeccable that night and showed a side of her voice we had never heard, which is always a constant surprise with her.

On Idol, she never sounded the same way twice, while Taylor sounded exactly the same every week. This could have worked against her favor I think. Taylor's idol performances sort of blur together, become indistinguishable from one to the next, but Kat's stands out, and when you're working with a fleeting memory, it's easier to point out flaws. It's created the myth that Kat was inconsistent which is SO not true.

Earlier tonight, I compiled a tally of all of Taylor and Kat's performances and who did better round for round. There were numerous ties, and before the end Kat was practically running away with the competition judge-comment wise. Then all of a sudden Elvis week...But even with such negative results at the end, Kat won overall by one point.

I know I'm just repeating myself at this point, but there are just so many ways to say one thing. Still, it's practically blasphemy to say Kat was inconsistent and that she was "the worst top two contender ever" because that's simply innacurate. Taylor was the "unbalanced" one.

"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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06/18/2006 7:01 AM Alert 
So basically we agree on our assesment of Taylor. I actually downloaded the Mp3 of "Something" and find it to be quite listenable. I havent heard the songs from the finale night a second time but yeah the general consensus enen on the Kat hating AI boards was she definately carried Taylor on those duets.

Back to your statment about Kat how she never sounded the same from night to night it is so fascinating how many different voices she has. There are times when she sounds like a Jazz/ Blues singer, Brodway star, Country Singer, Pop Singer and even a Popera singer.

You can categorize all of her performances under different genres and you end up with 3-5 different singers.


She has as many colors to her voice as she has styles for her beauty.( Sorry I had to bring up her beauty eventually.)
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06/18/2006 7:50 AM Alert 

My favorite Taylor performance, actually, was In The Ghetto. I also thought he did well on Living For the City, Levon, Trouble, Something, You Are so Beautiful, Try a little Tenderness, and the latter part of You Send Me. They were all great songs within his range.

You're right about Kat's beauty. As much as her voice differs from week to week, I SWEAR that she has never looked the same way twice. If there wasn't a caption everywhere she went that said "Mcphee," I might have had trouble recognizing it was her. From the span of three songa in the pre-finals round, she managed to not only look unrecognizable per her first audition, but also from Hollywood round, and from her "intro" video to actual performance. She never looked the same in her video package as she did while walking on stage. She was a different person with sometimes a different personality to go along with the look. 

The transition in look and voice from UYCBTM to CROCS... Remember STWOM and then straight to I Have Nothing? The Voice Within to Bringing out the Elvis where she almost looked (almost) the same for Who Wants to Live forever, but then you remember the Mcphee practicing with the band to the completely different one rehearsing WWTLF to the even more different one that walked out on stage (have I gone through all her performances yet)? Oh, and then on Final night...you know.

 I think there really exits dozens and dozens of brunette haired girls named Katharine Mcphee who masquarade as the same person. This would explain for Kat's impossible jet-setting schedule and the possibility of sounding like Christina singing I Believe I can Fly to Jane Monheit's SOTR and to "Blues," but then sounding like a funner version of KT Tunstill.
 
I can barely get my thoughts organized and explain this strange phenomenon in a way that makes sense even to myself. I project a long and experimental career for Katharine Mcphee.


"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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06/18/2006 10:14 AM Alert 
I agree totally with what's been said so far. The bar was set so high for Katharine that she simply could not meet expectations every week. There came a time when the judges simply began to hold her to a different standard. Whether it was genuine (i.e., they thought she could do better), or wether it was looking at the votes and seeing who was trending upwards and realizing Kat was having some troubles there and them wanting to be on the side of the public, I don't know.

But I have to say that judging bias is getting so bad on this show, that it's making me question my dedication to it. A part of me is happy that Taylor won: I liked him from the beginning. But when you have judges criticizing these young people week after week that they are "pitchy" and then Paula saying that pitchy is okay for Taylor (i.e., "that's just Taylor working it out"), it's gone too far. That was a disgraceful statement and she should retract it. And then her behavior after Simon declares Taylor the winner... it was so embarrassing that I couldn't watch the screen.

None of these young people need that kind of pressure or disrespectful attitude from the judges. It was wrong last year for Simon to declare Carrie the winner so early; it's wrong this year for Paula to do that same thing, and for her to cry like a baby after Elliot sings a song just like he's sung week after week. There was nothing any better or worse about his song that would have warranted a total melt-down on Paula's behalf (tell me she wasn't trying to swing the vote for Elliot and against Katharine?). These kinds of actions MATTER to an uninitiated public who wants to be told how to vote, and they have a profound effect (good and bad) on the contestants.

And it's wrong, and I predict that if they keep doing this, the ratings will begin to drop.
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06/18/2006 7:45 PM Alert 

" What may be pitchy to you is the essence of what he is."

You are so right. My worst Paula moment was when Simon told Kat she made the others look like "good amateurs," and Paula's never cared when he said that before, but all of a sudden she's talking all over him and not letting him finish giving positive praise. I really wanted to hear what he had to say, and despite whether what was wrong or right about his words, he at least had the right to finish. Unfortunately, Simon let Paula ramble endless times. I actually thought her comments were the most unfounded of the I Have Nothing performance. She said it was pitchy and flat and the clincher was that she didn't even apologize. She was searching for something negative while I believe Randy can't help being a snob when it comes to Whitney, and...you know SImon.
 
Yes, and at the finale when she and Randy were celebrating over besting SImon for Taylor....I was so embarrassed for her, especially because she didn't even stop to think about Kat's feelings for so obviously wanting someone else to win. I would liked to have seen her face when Kat won because no matter what Taylor did that year, Paula and alot of the time Randy, didn't even comment on the singing, just on how fun the performance was. The judges must have been in a competition all their own this year because Simon was P o'd when Chris left, and Chris was his only shot for not having Chris win. Randy and Paula just wanted to show Simon up to somehow validate their judging status.


"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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06/19/2006 8:27 AM Alert 
Posted By NothlitHawk777 on 06/18/2006 7:45 PM

Yes, and at the finale when she and Randy were celebrating over besting SImon for Taylor....I was so embarrassed for her, especially because she didn't even stop to think about Kat's feelings for so obviously wanting someone else to win. I would liked to have seen her face when Kat won because no matter what Taylor did that year, Paula and alot of the time Randy, didn't even comment on the singing, just on how fun the performance was. The judges must have been in a competition all their own this year because Simon was P o'd when Chris left, and Chris was his only shot for not having Chris win. Randy and Paula just wanted to show Simon up to somehow validate their judging status.


Indeed, and it's getting worse every year. There are two competitions going on, on AI: the one onstage and the one between the judges. Hopefully, someone on AI will realize the distraction and problems inherent in this kind of silliness, and put a clamp on it. Not likely though.
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06/19/2006 8:51 AM Alert 
If they just give Randy a crash course in vocabulary expansion and Paula a muzzle and an occasional tranquilizer dart everything should be A OK...But really, as much as I complain, I secretly love the controversy, and AI just wouldn't be the same with any other judges. Though I'd say Randy is the most replaceable as far as entertainment value is concerned since he says the same thing every week. David Foster would be interesting....

"I think it was the summertime when I laid eyes on you. I didn't even know your name...The boy you never wanted just steals your heart..."--Kat McPhee, Love Story

"4 walls and no you. The silence in this room is so loud...wow"--Kat McPhee, I Lost You

"I didn't see the crash that burnt the bridge, didn't see the missile that sank my loveship down..."--Kat McPhee, Dangerous

"Wanting you to be wanting me, no that ain't no way to be...You never were a friend of mine..."--Kat McPhee, Over It

"No more lonely nights to hurt me, no more tears left to spare, no more reasons to be unhappy. You threw them all up in the air..."--Kat McPhee, Each Other

"Your pedicure, white-tipped French. Your legs don't make no sense...Shoes like these make me hate flats..."--Kat McPhee, Open Toes
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06/19/2006 9:49 AM Alert 
Did you know Simon salary is 10 times that of Paula's?

I never really expected much from her as a Judge, but she even lost her place as "The nice one" during the final 3 when she gave Kat the silent treatment during IBICF, for the folks watching at home that is tantamount to a Kiss of Death. The only thing that got Kat out of that uncomfortable situation was a remarkable save from Sister McPhee's with the "She is incredible" line.
We know it wasn't based on the performance because Paula has praised vocally terrible performances for 5 seasons it was all done in a desperate attempt to secure Elliot a spot in the finale.

She is grossly overpaid, IMO.

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