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11/22/2007 12:32 PM Alert 

From Detroit 11-22-07

225MB: http://www.sendspace.com/file/su72b1

Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8H8Ixub6Q0

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11/22/2007 3:18 PM Alert 

thank you!

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11/22/2007 6:49 PM Alert 

BigThanks to BigShady!

Here's the audio for the Star Spangled Banner portion

MP3, stereo
www.divshare.com/download/2854397-2f7

AC3, 6 channels
www.divshare.com/download/2854398-6f9

Edit +20071124: See the post on 11/24 for better versions

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11/22/2007 7:02 PM Alert 
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11/22/2007 8:50 PM Alert 
I picked up at IDF (from you) and thanks again. Always nice to see Katharine in HD.
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11/22/2007 9:48 PM Alert 
Thanks for the speedy post! I knew it would be easier to catch it here than dvr the pre game and game just to wade thourgh that for Kat.

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11/23/2007 12:29 AM Alert 

whoa I was creeped out for a sec there. I didn't even post this link yet and it had been downloaded 5 times! Then I remembered it's in a divshare folder with the audio files.

Tease+Performance
"Vinman-like" AVI
720x400, mp3 audio, 30fps, 65MB
http://www.divshare.com/download/2857461-69c

This one doesn't fit on divshare.
mpeg-2 "near-source"
255MB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVGZFE05
Essentially, it's the combined mpeg-2 source (Tease+Performance).

Notes for propeller-heads
For my edited mpgs like this, the beginning of each joined segment will be reencoded, but not more than 14 frames (~0.25 seconds for 60fps 720p, ~0.5 seconds for 30fps 1080i). In this case, 7 frames for the tease segment, 11 frames for the performance segment.

If you want the true unreencoded source of the tease segment:
http://www.divshare.com/download/2855721-801
20.5MB

And, since the 2 media threads will eventually get separated, here's the other thread
http://www.katharinefans.com/Forums/tabid/92/forumid/26/postid/130812/view/topic/Default.aspx

Happy Thanksgiving!

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11/23/2007 9:00 AM Alert 

thanks for posting this so quickly. an amazing performance by Katharine


Some people come into our lives and quickly go.Others stay for a while and leave footprints on our hearts and we are never the same. That my friends is Katharine McPhee
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11/23/2007 3:33 PM Alert 
Posted By differentlife on 11/23/2007 12:29 AM

whoa I was creeped out for a sec there. I didn't even post this link yet and it had been downloaded 5 times! Then I remembered it's in a divshare folder with the audio files.

Tease+Performance
"Vinman-like" AVI
720x400, mp3 audio, 30fps, 65MB
http://www.divshare.com/download/2857461-69c

This one doesn't fit on divshare.
mpeg-2 "near-source"
255MB
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OVGZFE05
Essentially, it's the combined mpeg-2 source (Tease+Performance).

Notes for propeller-heads
For my edited mpgs like this, the beginning of each joined segment will be reencoded, but not more than 14 frames (~0.25 seconds for 60fps 720p, ~0.5 seconds for 30fps 1080i). In this case, 7 frames for the tease segment, 11 frames for the performance segment.

If you want the true unreencoded source of the tease segment:
http://www.divshare.com/download/2855721-801
20.5MB

And, since the 2 media threads will eventually get separated, here's the other thread
http://www.katharinefans.com/Forums/tabid/92/forumid/26/postid/130812/view/topic/Default.aspx

Happy Thanksgiving!


I'm just curious, what is the purpose of the re-encode?  Sych issues?  And thanks for the tease in HD!.

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11/23/2007 3:41 PM Alert 

I've found this poll comparing Kat's National anthem to the one Carrie sang on game 3. Come and vote for Katharine!!!!! - http://pollsb.com/polls/poll/3994/the-national-anthem-who-sang-it-better

 

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11/23/2007 4:07 PM Alert 
^^^There are only 3 votes so far - should be easy to stuff.
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11/23/2007 10:32 PM Alert 
Right now it's Carrie ahead but pretty close, 47-53%, and Katharine sang it in a higher key than Carrie did. (I was curious.)

katpedia.com - watch and listen to Idol, pre-Idol, and post-Idol McPhee performances all in one convenient location

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11/24/2007 1:57 AM Alert 
Question for diff: Is there any way for you to isolate the channels of the AC3 5.1 and just pull out the ones that have Katharine's singing on them and make a mix that way? It seems like there are a lot of extraneous noises is in the feed and I was listening on headphones and wondering if that was the contribution of the surround/crowd microphones.
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11/24/2007 3:18 AM Alert 
Posted By CRB on 11/24/2007 1:57 AM
Question for diff: Is there any way for you to isolate the channels of the AC3 5.1 and just pull out the ones that have Katharine's singing on them and make a mix that way? It seems like there are a lot of extraneous noises is in the feed and I was listening on headphones and wondering if that was the contribution of the surround/crowd microphones.



Here's the standard def cap that had 2 channel audio. It should be just the good stuff. [Edit +20071124: No, it has the background noise too. Get the files in a later post] I'll check out the 6 channel again later. I did notice a lot of background noise in the 6 channel mixdown. As you pointed out, the surround channels probably are just crowd.

http://www.divshare.com/download/2865335-a87

We need a clean audio without the glitch at "perilous fight." Some recording not from TV? Anyone?

Posted By CRB on 11/23/2007 3:33 PM

I'm just curious, what is the purpose of the re-encode?  Sych issues?  And thanks for the tease in HD!.

 

Actually, in this case I should have cut it earlier a few frames to avoid reencoding but I didn't think about it until after I was well into the huge upload. I wasn't thinking straight

The reencode has to do with the structure of the MPEG-2 stream. If you load the mpg into GSpot (Codec Information Appliance), currently 2.70a, and press the VGS button you can see the I, B and P frames. Press the Auto-Set Layout button to see the pattern clearer and mouseover the frames.

The I frames (red) are completely independent frames that encode the whole frame, like a JPEG picture. The P frames (blue) only contain information of the picture relative to the previous I or P reference frame. The B frames (green) are relative to either the previous or future reference frame, or both.

The mpeg-2 stream looks like this
IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB ...

The new mpg is made to start with an I frame**, so if the starting cut point is at a P or B frame,

IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB ... IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB end of mpg
        ^ start cut here                       ^ end cut here


a new I frame needs to be reencoded, plus new P and B frames. (The ending cut point doesn't matter) Like this:

        IPPPPPB
        ^
That's the only part that needs reencoding because once the next I frame comes up, all the frames afterward (I, P, or B) can be copied without reencoding.
        IPPPPPB IBBPBBPBBPBBPBB ... IBBPBBPBBPBB  end of mpg

For the TS, there's an I frame every 15 frames, so I should have cut it at an I frame since I didn't really have to cut at an exact frame in this case. Other caps I do though. It depends on the edit point.

Also, that so-called un-reencoded mpg is actually partly reencoded too. whoops sorry! But really, it's only 117 milliseconds of video at the start with Packer's #80 and #21 on-screen.

MPEG info here
http://bmrc.berkeley.edu/research/mpeg/mpeg_overview.html

**An mpg could start with a B frame rather than an I frame, like Shady's does.

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11/24/2007 11:21 AM Alert 
I actually kind of understood that.

That 2 channel mix sounds about like the 5.1 noise-wise but the over all level was a bit lower. If you check the front center channel, it may be the "purest" source, I would be happy with mono if you can get rid of the "play by play" chatter in the background. I would guess that they mix some of the crowd into the front L-R to get a "wide" front stage.
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11/24/2007 12:50 PM Alert 
Posted By CRB on 11/24/2007 11:21 AM
I actually kind of understood that.

That 2 channel mix sounds about like the 5.1 noise-wise but the over all level was a bit lower. If you check the front center channel, it may be the "purest" source, I would be happy with mono if you can get rid of the "play by play" chatter in the background. I would guess that they mix some of the crowd into the front L-R to get a "wide" front stage.


This is good sounding stuff right here.


New audio!
(remember the divshare stream is wrong for 48kHz, so click the Download Original link at the divshare page)

"Near-the-mike" mix - Superior to the full broadcast audio I posted earlier. No background chatter. Just the front left (FL) and right (FR) channels.
www.divshare.com/download/2875001-160

"In-the-crowd" mix - Kat singing: What someone standing out in the walkways could have heard. Distant and echoey, but interestingly smoother sounding. I personally loved the performance, except 2 notes [Edit 20071124: No I take it back. I loved it all. That "free" has a raw edge rarely heard], but maybe those who didn't care for the original audio should try this one. Just the surround left (SL) and right (SR) channels. Interesting to hear what is probably close to what the crowd heard. Crowd reaction: What someone in the crowd could have heard (That is, a lot of enthusiastic cheering)
www.divshare.com/download/2875002-1cc

"4 channel" mix
- "Near-the-mike" + "In-the-crowd". Nearly identical to the 6 channel audio because there was very little center or low frequency signal. Not much reason to get this if you already have the original MP3 I posted except for comparison.
www.divshare.com/download/2875003-471

Here's a screenshot of the 6 channel audio waveforms
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k274/idf0834791/kat/20071122%20Thanksgiving%20Star%20Spangled%20Banner/2007122_SSB_sshot_AC3_to_6chWAV.gif

You can see the center channel (C) had nothing during the anthem except the first 10 seconds, before they turned it off, and the last 13 seconds. It sounds like the surround channels, faint and distant, so I left it out. Low frequency (LFE) was just, well, low frequency rumbling.

enjoy!

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11/24/2007 2:13 PM Alert 
Posted By differentlife on 11/24/2007 12:50 PM
Posted By CRB on 11/24/2007 11:21 AM
I actually kind of understood that.

That 2 channel mix sounds about like the 5.1 noise-wise but the over all level was a bit lower. If you check the front center channel, it may be the "purest" source, I would be happy with mono if you can get rid of the "play by play" chatter in the background. I would guess that they mix some of the crowd into the front L-R to get a "wide" front stage.


This is good sounding stuff right here.



enjoy!


I did!  I did!   Any chance I can get a diff redub of the HD video with this amazing cleaned up FR/FL  audio.  This is really chilling how good her singing is in isolation like this.   How about those first few words where the mix is low any possibility of boosting that a tad to bring it up to the rest of the performance?  The dropout I think we just have to deal with.

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11/24/2007 6:44 PM Alert 
the near-the-mike mix sounded much as i imagined the audio on the broadcast to have been like. thanks diff


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11/25/2007 1:23 AM Alert 
Posted By kenneth on 11/24/2007 6:44 PM
the near-the-mike mix sounded much as i imagined the audio on the broadcast to have been like. thanks diff

 Better than the broadcast, which had the noise mixed in. 

 

Posted By CRB on 11/24/2007 2:13 PM

I did!  I did!   Any chance I can get a diff redub of the HD video with this amazing cleaned up FR/FL  audio.  This is really chilling how good her singing is in isolation like this.   How about those first few words where the mix is low any possibility of boosting that a tad to bring it up to the rest of the performance?  The dropout I think we just have to deal with.

yup to the HD dub! I tried boosting the first part but the FL and FR channels carry a lot of mixed in crowd noise in just that part, so the noise gets loud. I think it sounds better as is. When you get a chance, can you check out this AC3 in VLC with 6 speakers? It should have signals in all 6 channels until the anthem starts, then the center, low frequency and surround channels are mute, then they fade back in at "brave." I think I figured out 6ch AC3 reencoding now. cool!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HRBU1XKI

thanks!

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11/25/2007 3:32 AM Alert 
Posted By Kutchi on 11/23/2007 3:41 PM

I've found this poll comparing Kat's National anthem to the one Carrie sang on game 3. Come and vote for Katharine!!!!! - http://pollsb.com/polls/poll/3994/the-national-anthem-who-sang-it-better

 


Kat's winning right now 53% to 47% for Carrie. And while both of them are close to apples and oranges comparisons in their anthem takes--it doesn't take a genius to see that Kat put more intense emotion (i.e. acting) into it than Carrie did. This showed Kat's true stage presence as both a great singer and actress. As I said in the other threads about the anthem--Kat's breaking up on the high notes just provided more character and emotion in my mind. You didn't see anybody on the field wince at those notes. They felt the palpable emotion Kat set in place. Remember any other time when you saw at least two football players biting their lip?

Overall, with Carrie, you could tell she went more inward to sing while Kat truly projects all her thoughts and feelings. Yes, Carrie hit the high notes perfectly--but I'm glad to see the majority realize that isn't all there is to a performance. Then again, these polls don't reflect all reality (obviously)--even though I think people want a singer who can project the true meaning behind our anthem's words rather than just singing them.

Thanks to our media gurus here for that HD download. That was the first one I downloaded (40 minutes on a high-speed line ) and well worth every minute of wait. You'll see a lot of details (i.e. veins on people's hands as they hold their heart) you won't see on the blurry Youtube copy. That's strange that I didn't even notice any background singers with Kat as some are insinuating.

One thing that sort of bothered me: The Fox camera waiting to cut to Kat until she was already well into the first note. I appreciate seeing the intensity of the singer right before they start singing. They did that with Carrie (you could tell she was in deep concentration)--while Kat was probably already setting the emotional intensity bar before singing the first note.

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11/27/2007 11:33 AM Alert 
For those of you who would vote for K. McPhee just because you watch K. McPhee live in HD and C. Underwood in crappy quality like what YouTube provides, I think it is unfair.

Therefore, I'd like to provide you a link for C. Underwood live performance in HD. I didn't upload these link as I really hate Rapidshare. Most of the time, I usually upload videos to Sendspace.

Therefore, I'd like to give a credit to VideoMan.

Carrie Underwood - Star-Spangled Banner - 10.27.07 - Live @ The World Series - 720p - HDTV

Size: 249 MB
Lenght: 2:13 min.
Format: MPEG-2 (MPG)
Res: 1280x720 (16:9)
Audio: DD5.1 @ 448Kbps

http://rapidshare.com/files/65674949/Carrie_Underwood_-_Star-Spangled_Banner_-_10.27.07__World_Series_.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/65677124/Carrie_Underwood_-_Star-Spangled_Banner_-_10.27.07__World_Series_.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/65678263/Carrie_Underwood_-_Star-Spangled_Banner_-_10.27.07__World_Series_.part3.rar

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11/27/2007 11:46 AM Alert 
Posted By zarut on 11/27/2007 11:33 AM
For those of you who would vote for K. McPhee just because you watch K. McPhee live in HD and C. Underwood in crappy quality like what YouTube provides, I think it is unfair.

Therefore, I'd like to provide you a link for C. Underwood live performance in HD. I didn't upload these link as I really hate Rapidshare. Most of the time, I usually upload videos to Sendspace.

Therefore, I'd like to give a credit to VideoMan.

Carrie Underwood - Star-Spangled Banner - 10.27.07 - Live @ The World Series - 720p - HDTV

Size: 249 MB
Lenght: 2:13 min.
Format: MPEG-2 (MPG)
Res: 1280x720 (16:9)
Audio: DD5.1 @ 448Kbps

http://rapidshare.com/files/65674949/Carrie_Underwood_-_Star-Spangled_Banner_-_10.27.07__World_Series_.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/65677124/Carrie_Underwood_-_Star-Spangled_Banner_-_10.27.07__World_Series_.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/65678263/Carrie_Underwood_-_Star-Spangled_Banner_-_10.27.07__World_Series_.part3.rar

 

Whoops, must have gotting your proxy setting mixed up zarut.  You were looking for this site:

http://www.carriefans.com/

 

 

Seriously, I have seen Carrie sing it a half dozen times at least...in HD, SD, HQ and assorted other levels of quality.

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11/27/2007 11:55 AM Alert 
Hopefully, www.carriefans.com has the multimedia forum where I can obtain more of her live performance videoes in HD!
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