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01/15/2008 11:55 PM Alert 

Well, times have certainly changed.

AI no longer discovers mega-stars among the masses; the top contestants this year are PROs already. Take for example one Kristy Lee Cook. Very talented. Strikingly beautiful. 23 year old tall slim blonde country singer. Signed by BMI when she was 15. Has a CD for sale on her web site. And a music video.

Here's her site:http://www.kristylee.net

Now don't get me wrong, I like Kristy. Alot. She'll be in the Top 6 for sure. And there's many other pros like her in the Hollywood round from what I hear.

But somehow, it just isn't the same.

BTW, Kristy was unceremoniously dropped by RCA after 2 years. They apparently weren't interested in developing new young talent. Sound familiar?

 


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01/16/2008 8:58 AM Alert 
Very interesting tidbit,Bill!I'm wondering if the top AI7 contestants will even be offerred record deals at all,anymore! Kristy was definitely one of the most charming people and better singers shown last night.Fascinating that she's already been an RCA dropee.
Another question....will the judges continue to try to manipulate the contest outcome by their pre-conceived,whacked formula?......ie,we had a female winner last year...they've already hinted at a male winner this year...so the fix is on!
I can't resist being sarcastic or facetious:maybe the powers that be are looking for pre-dropped singers;that would save them the trouble of having to do the dropping.....that is if they don't have the "mainstream goods"! The real question is why am I still watching this dishonest show???????????????????
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01/16/2008 6:14 PM Alert 

Well I didn't watch AI and I don't know if I will at all. Seeing what has happened to Season 5 and 6 top finishers (ie Kat, etc) has really cooled my interest. However, I heard that Kristi Lee Cook from my state is pretty good. If she makes it very far I may get suckered in again. Who knows. I didn't know she was signed by RCA once. If she wins, that would be interesting all right. They would probably make her sing pop instead of country, which is most likely why they parted ways the last time. That would be ironic.

Here is the AI clip in my local paper's website:

http://blog.oregonlive.com/idahosportugal/2008/01/selma_oregons_american_idol_co.html#comments

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01/17/2008 12:04 AM Alert 
I thought a lot of the recent contenders from past years like Kat, Taylor, Melinda, and Jordin were toeing the line on that non-pro/non-wringer requirement, but this is totally crossing the line now. I guess Idol rejected so many singers in the past, that even the good singers aren't willing to keep trying their luck. But I'll probably get sucked into watching the show again...
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01/18/2008 10:53 AM Alert 
I don't know why this surprises me, but at least Taylor was self-producing his Cd's and people like Melinda were backup singers, not "stars" with recording contracts, and Katharine had a movie credit and was a pro in the sense that she got paid a whole $25 a performance for some of her local theater work. This, however, seems like going a step farther. It's almost like the difference between allowing some "iffy" people on Olympic teams, and then actually putting NBA All Stars on the team. Almost but not quite. At least these people haven't become household names yet. But it's sure becoming something other than an "amateur hour," isn't it? If it ever was that. I suppose if you look at it as "the search for the next superstar," which is their subtitle, it's doing what it's supposed to, in that it's giving people a chance to go to the top because of the huge Idol audience exposure. And too, there have been kids who went straight from the high school choir to the Idol stage--like Sanjaya and Kevin. But Idol couldn't survive on just people like them--the "real" amateurs. So this is probably inevitable.

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01/18/2008 11:57 AM Alert 

I actually did watch AI episode 1, I just happened to be at my mother's for dinner that night. (I caught Katharine's audition 2 years before also purely by accident.)

So - it is even worse than I thought. It is so obvious that most of the "talent" was chosen by the producers not because they have a chance of making it but so that they can be humiliated by the "judges" in front of millions of people.

It is also so obvious who has already been chosen. Kristy Lee Cook got such the pimp treatment with the 5 minute preview at her home in Oregon that must have set back Idol a few thousand dollars in transportation and video.

We just know she is going to be in the top 12 and is probably being groomed to "win" the whole thing:

The next Carrie. Half a million debut album sales in the country market without even trying.

And already been contracted to and then dumped by RCA??? The girl is ahead of the game.

She seems to have everything going for her and yet - there is nothing exciting about her, there is no mystery about what she will become, no endless possibilities as there were and are with Katharine. What you see is what you get and that is what the world wants, all pre-packaged pre-marketed and tied up with a ribbon for delivery.

Anyway, one idol per lifetime is enough for me and Katharine is it. I won't be watching any more of this season, except by accident.

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01/18/2008 12:13 PM Alert 
I will agree with you Phee. I just have no interest anymore. It is being so blatantly manipulated now it amazes me. Not that it wasn't before but with the rocky road we have been down with Kat it has become so much more obvious. They are grooming the next Carrie or Chris. It's a formula and to be honest the milk is getting sour.

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01/18/2008 3:11 PM Alert 
Posted By uplink2 on 01/18/2008 12:13 PM
I will agree with you Phee. I just have no interest anymore. It is being so blatantly manipulated now it amazes me. Not that it wasn't before but with the rocky road we have been down with Kat it has become so much more obvious. They are grooming the next Carrie or Chris. It's a formula and to be honest the milk is getting sour.

How about Kady Malloy, 18 years old, from Houston, TX --- the next Britney or Shakira, or actually, another Carrie.

KADY MALLOY audition - Unchained Melody

 

 

But then, Kristy Lee Cook, at 23, might actually cut it farther ahead than a younger girl. Besides, Kristy looks like she has a more pleasing personality and poise, oozing with talents too. Because it's unusual to find brain, body and beauty altogether, sometimes it could be intimidating and too overwhelming for ordinary or regular voters to get into a bandwagon like Kristy Lee Cook, even if she's country or down to earth. Her past pro life might actually be in the way, but who knows how well AI could have her come up amateurish like. Judging would definitely be either ridiculous or outrageous, I can sense. I always have fear and doubts about beauty and talent together winning on idol. The obvious just cannot have an easy pass without intrigues or bashings, which is a shame, like in the case of Kat in season 5, who almost had it all, but then was let down anyway. Amazes and amuses me.


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01/18/2008 3:22 PM Alert 
I've already stated that I haven't watched AI yet this year, but I think you people are being a little harsh on the participants. Take Kristi for example, do you really think that the fact that she had a record contract at 15 and failed helps her so much that she shouldn't be given another chance at 23? Give me a break. Would you eliminate the chance for anyone that has performed for money, such as Taylor, Chris, Melinda, etc? How about anyone who has performed on television, or the stage, etc? There are many paths, but not many successes. I think I would allow anyone not currently under record company contract.
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01/19/2008 10:53 AM Alert 
So far Kristy Lee and Kady are the best...But nothing sooo special that caught my eyes...
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01/20/2008 3:50 AM Alert 

It'd be great to see an Oregonian make the Top Six this year. Last year, there was a guy from Portland who many thought should have gone farther (I can't recall his name...Tommy somebody...) but was cut around Top 12. Oregon has a lot of talent out here, though. The NW is really into the music business with people who actually want to be good and not a water cooler-inspired "Moron of the Week" on national television.

Well, yeah, Kristy Lee Cook already being a professional (you can see just how professional via her website) just shows you that "AI" is no longer the little homemade pie state fair talent contest as we want it to be. That pretty much kills it for me on the songwriting contest, too, if they decide to do it again this year. After finding out last year's winner was already a popular songwriter (with a #1 Christian single under his belt), you realize "AI" no longer wants to take risks with true amateurs--while conveniently--or pathetically--trying to cover it up. I guess all the people who make the judges' life hell with sheer stupidity and ignorance with vacuous talent ruined it for amateurs who actually take it seriously. Some of those auditions are worthy of being somewhere in the Twilight Zone at this point.

I caught the first episode just to see what's what after seven long months away from the madness. And, yes, it's more of the same...which means I'm bowing out until actual competition gets underway. Besides, you can see the highlights on Comcast's The Fan every week if I want to be quickly entertained and not sent into fits of insanity.

It's amazing, isn't it, that all of us are able to figure out every little detail of how this show works now. You'd think everybody else would be able to figure it out, too, if we all can. Of course, we're veterans of watching it and analyzing it to death. The lower ratings on opening night is obviously a sign it's on its way down.

All said, I still find it fascinating to watch once the live competition gets going. According to reports, the writers strike will probably force people to gravitate to the show. Higher ratings based on a technicality would just seem odd, wouldn't it?

 

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01/20/2008 9:42 AM Alert 
Posted By Katsfan1 on 01/18/2008 3:22 PM
I've already stated that I haven't watched AI yet this year, but I think you people are being a little harsh on the participants. Take Kristi for example, do you really think that the fact that she had a record contract at 15 and failed helps her so much that she shouldn't be given another chance at 23? Give me a break. Would you eliminate the chance for anyone that has performed for money, such as Taylor, Chris, Melinda, etc? How about anyone who has performed on television, or the stage, etc? There are many paths, but not many successes. I think I would allow anyone not currently under record company contract.


We're not criticizing the contestants or saying that they shouldn't have a second chance. It's just, as Greg pointed out above, that American Idol likes to conveniently hide the PRO status of these contestants. They apparently want to feed us a diet of already seasoned pros while making believe they're rank amateurs.

And if you search back on my KMF posts early in season 5, you'd see that I thought it grossly unfair to Kat that she had to compete against much more experienced, semi-pro  people such as Taylor. Heck, detractors even complained about Kat's previous experience, though I'd hardly consider regional theater, The NextBig Star, and a bit part in an unreleased movie as even semi-pro.


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01/20/2008 1:13 PM Alert 
There is something that just is not "right" with Idol. It doesn't seem spontaneous and I hesitate to use the word, but Idol of late has a "fixed" feeling.
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01/20/2008 2:21 PM Alert 
Was it just an accident that Kady Malloy sang one of Simon's favorite songs? She does have a lovely voice,though.

I think AI has been in the rigging business for years......the judges have tried to manipulate the outcomes at least since AI5,(maybe prior) when they turned on Kat,starting with the IHN fiasco,as they tried to insure a male winner.The show got too big;too much money involved and dishonesty prevails.......kind of analagous to our political system!
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01/20/2008 9:59 PM Alert 
Yeah, they've probably always been doing whatever they're doing now, it's just that as the show gets
bigger and bigger, they seem to get found out more because they're under closer scrutiny. It does seem
odd that some people get featured in these little home movies, almost like they were trying to drum up
interest in them early on... Oh well, four months from now we can check back here and see if we were
right. And although Katharine made an Idol fan of me, I'm not looking for another Idol. I just enjoy the
show for what it is these days. Whatever that is. It will really get interesting when the real competition
begins and the audition freak show is over.

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01/21/2008 10:17 AM Alert 
Check out 2 songs from Kady Malloy here. Even though I'm not looking for another Idol these songs are 1. more professionally produced than "amateurs", 2. Very interesting and I like them alot. Not really big on her voice yet but these 2 songs are really good. There is just something that works for me about them.

But the point is this girl is definitely "semi-pro" too.

Check out the sample of Unwanted and the entire Nobody Knows. They are surprisingly very good IMO.

http://www.myspace.com/kadymalloyfans

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01/22/2008 2:25 PM Alert 
Posted By uplink2 on 01/21/2008 10:17 AM
Check out 2 songs from Kady Malloy here. Even though I'm not looking for another Idol these songs are 1. more professionally produced than "amateurs", 2. Very interesting and I like them alot. Not really big on her voice yet but these 2 songs are really good. There is just something that works for me about them.

But the point is this girl is definitely "semi-pro" too.

Check out the sample of Unwanted and the entire Nobody Knows. They are surprisingly very good IMO.

http://www.myspace.com/kadymalloyfans


I agree with you. Thanks for this find. I must say Kady's voice can be versatile - she could project that country and pop sound separately. No wonder Simon said she's talented. To sound like Britney in "I'm Not Yet a Girl", then in "It's automatic" - sounding like Kat, wow, I would give her a listen, definitely, because she has an interesting voice. If her voice is powerful, she is not using it yet fully in these songs. She just sounds like having fun singing. I believe her true voice is in "It's Automatic" and "Unwanted". Both songs are briliantly sung and radio friendly, the kind that would go up the charts easily. Nobody Knows is very good! I like the beat in "It's Automatic", I'm dancing to it right now. ha ha ha...

But I can't get over her sounding like Britney, really. I haven't heard her sing Rascal Flatts yet, but it would be interesting when I get to. On audition, she tried a small part of "Before He Cheats" and she sounded like Carrie indeed. Wow, is Kady Malloy the undiscovered impersonator of female singers or the Queen of Karaoke sound or the next American Idol? Hope she could give same level of performances on the show.

 


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01/22/2008 7:20 PM Alert 

I really don't see why someone having professional credentials behind them shouldn't be considered for AI. Being a "professional" can have a wide variety of definitions... as many here have mentioned.

My fancy has been taken lately by ABC's Dance Wars.  The contestants have various backgrounds with both schooling and some professional experience. There are 12 competing in two different teams...6 guys and 6 girls. To me, there are 3 guys and 3 girls who are definitely worth watching. These kids (oldest is 23, youngest 18), have to be able to both sing and dance....yes, at the same time! The 3 girls who did Lady Marmelade (sp) were amazing!

I'm just mentioning this in case anyone else loves singing and dancing as much as I do! It only has (I believe) 4 or 5 more Monday nights so it won't interfere with AI. I just love witnessing the amazing talent that is out there!

"The champions will win a life changing prize - they'll go on tour as the opening act for a major performing artist and a chance to start a thrilling career as part of a brand new all-dancing, all-singing act." For more, just check out abc.com.

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Posted By Gregoriancant on 01/20/2008 3:50 AM

It'd be great to see an Oregonian make the Top Six this year. Last year, there was a guy from Portland who many thought should have gone farther (I can't recall his name...Tommy somebody...) but was cut around Top 12. Oregon has a lot of talent out here, though. The NW is really into the music business with people who actually want to be good and not a water cooler-inspired "Moron of the Week" on national television.

Well, yeah, Kristy Lee Cook already being a professional (you can see just how professional via her website) just shows you that "AI" is no longer the little homemade pie state fair talent contest as we want it to be. That pretty much kills it for me on the songwriting contest, too, if they decide to do it again this year. After finding out last year's winner was already a popular songwriter (with a #1 Christian single under his belt), you realize "AI" no longer wants to take risks with true amateurs--while conveniently--or pathetically--trying to cover it up. I guess all the people who make the judges' life hell with sheer stupidity and ignorance with vacuous talent ruined it for amateurs who actually take it seriously. Some of those auditions are worthy of being somewhere in the Twilight Zone at this point.

I caught the first episode just to see what's what after seven long months away from the madness. And, yes, it's more of the same...which means I'm bowing out until actual competition gets underway. Besides, you can see the highlights on Comcast's The Fan every week if I want to be quickly entertained and not sent into fits of insanity.

It's amazing, isn't it, that all of us are able to figure out every little detail of how this show works now. You'd think everybody else would be able to figure it out, too, if we all can. Of course, we're veterans of watching it and analyzing it to death. The lower ratings on opening night is obviously a sign it's on its way down.

All said, I still find it fascinating to watch once the live competition gets going. According to reports, the writers strike will probably force people to gravitate to the show. Higher ratings based on a technicality would just seem odd, wouldn't it?

 

Wouldn't it be nice, indeed?&nbs