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05/22/2007 8:23 PM Alert 
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Maybe I'm crazy, but something doesn't smell right to me.

First, Blake wins the coin toss, then let's Jordin go in the primo second slot.
Then he goes on to give two great performances followed my a performace on the winner's original song which was so lackluster it was hard to believe he was even trying. Or maybe trying not to be trying???

Jordin then proceeds to hit that same song sofar out of the ballpark it landed accross Santa Monica Blvd. Now I realize that the song ( a pretty good one too) wasn't perfectly suited for Blake, but I just can't believe that he couldn't have done better with it.  Jordins rendition was THE BEST I've ever heard of an AI winner's song.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a Jordin fan and happy that she'll probably win...
but it just isn't sitting right with me so far. I don't know if anyone has been following this, but Howard Stern has been pressuring AI with accusations that the eliminations are not going strictly by vote. I just wonder if there's any connection.
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Posted By bcollan on 05/22/2007 8:23 PM
***BIG SPOILER***
Read no further till the show is over!!!
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Maybe I'm crazy, but something doesn't smell right to me.

First, Blake wins the coin toss, then let's Jordin go in the primo second slot.
Then he goes on to give two great performances followed my a performace on the winner's original song which was so lackluster it was hard to believe he was even trying. Or maybe trying not to be trying???

Jordin then proceeds to hit that same song sofar out of the ballpark it landed accross Santa Monica Blvd. Now I realize that the song ( a pretty good one too) wasn't perfectly suited for Blake, but I just can't believe that he couldn't have done better with it.  Jordins rendition was THE BEST I've ever heard of an AI winner's song.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a Jordin fan and happy that she'll probably win...
but it just isn't sitting right with me so far. I don't know if anyone has been following this, but Howard Stern has been pressuring AI with accusations that the eliminations are not going strictly by vote. I just wonder if there's any connection.

 

It wouldn't surprise me in the least.  An AI rep. (or claimed to be) was on Howard Stern earlier in the season and all but admitted that they (American Idol) have every right to eliminate people as they see fit and not necessarily go 100% by the actual vote.  I was rather alarmed at the time that it didn't make bigger news.  Ah well....

With each passing day, it is pretty evident that the hey day of American Idol is fading fast.  I think season 5 will be remembered as the last great season of the show.
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Posted By bcollan on 05/22/2007 8:23 PM
***BIG SPOILER***
Read no further till the show is over!!!
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Maybe I'm crazy, but something doesn't smell right to me.

First, Blake wins the coin toss, then let's Jordin go in the primo second slot.
Then he goes on to give two great performances followed my a performace on the winner's original song which was so lackluster it was hard to believe he was even trying. Or maybe trying not to be trying???

Jordin then proceeds to hit that same song sofar out of the ballpark it landed accross Santa Monica Blvd. Now I realize that the song ( a pretty good one too) wasn't perfectly suited for Blake, but I just can't believe that he couldn't have done better with it.  Jordins rendition was THE BEST I've ever heard of an AI winner's song.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a Jordin fan and happy that she'll probably win...
but it just isn't sitting right with me so far. I don't know if anyone has been following this, but Howard Stern has been pressuring AI with accusations that the eliminations are not going strictly by vote. I just wonder if there's any connection.


Getting back to the meat of your thread.....  Granted, I thought Jordin did a better job than Blake on that final song, but it was far from as perfect as the judges said.  She was shaky and pitchy, especially in the beginning part of the song, but finally pulled it together towards the ending of the song.  And I disagreed with the judges also in regards to Blake's song.  Not a great song; average at best and it was a type of song that Blake wouldn't normally sing as well.  Neither was a clear winner.  Both had their moments, but neither was flawless.  I have to agree with Simon's comments.... Blake was the better performer, especially in the first two songs, but Jordin was the better singer.  So now it's up to the voters... What does America want...... a great singer or a great entertainer???
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05/22/2007 8:46 PM Alert 
it wouldn't surprise me at all either. A living prove of that is Katharine.. she SHOULD have won..
i always thought this... i feel like there's something wrong with the show ,maybe they manipulate the votes.. but who knows..
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05/22/2007 8:47 PM Alert 

Yes, I just watched the show. I don't know if any kind of conspiracy is under way. However, just as I predicted, it was no competition at all. Jordin was fabulous and walked away the winner. I'm sure of it. Now had Melinda been in the final, it would have been a battle of the BIG voices!! I would have paid good money to see that show!! LOL

I like Blake and think he has a very unique talent . . . but the last two songs tonight really showcased his weaknesses vocally. In fact, on the second song, there were definite pitch problems and I'm very surprised that none of the judges called him on it. Guess they didn't want it to appear to be a landslide in Jordin's direction. Too late, judges. This was a no brainer!
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05/22/2007 8:53 PM Alert 
DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN TONIGHT'S FINAL!!!


I'm in Florida tonight and that's why I was able to see the show first for once, EST!!   No, I don't think Blake "took a dive" tonight but I think Blake did as well as he is capable of with all three songs.  To me, (I like Blake) TONIGHT wasn't his best performance of the competition.  Blake did start out great. His first song, the Bon Jovi, "You Give Love a Bad Name" was very good, beatboxing and all.

Jordin was on tonight. She was ready.  Starting with a Christina A song elicited an "OK "from Simon because for once she was singing something that was "young" but a bit shrieky.Randy and Paula gave Jordin, "You were stellar," but Simon awarded the first round to "the best performer"  Blake!

For Blake's  second round song, I'd agree with Simon that his performance of the Maroon 5 song was  "ho hum."  Why couldn't he have picked a more UP song. It all seemed boring, like a three note song, sorry.For her second song, Jordin sang "Broken Wing" so beautifully this time around that Randy praised her, saying it was better than the original!  Paula was again wowed by Jordin and Simon said, "Now that was good! with NO pronouncement like who won the 2nd round.

Blake started the final round with the winning song from a songwriting pair from yes, Seattle!  As Blake started the first bars of the song, I thought WOW, we DO have a competition.  Then he slid into being pitchy and all over the place, sad to say. The three wise judges affirmed that the reason why Blake didn't do well here was it was "not his kind of song!"  And a response from Blake? a slight smirk... Simon, "I'll have to say someone said there's talent in Seattle(Blake's hometown) and he is right!

 For her final song, Jordin performed her rendition of the same song, "This is My Now".  She knocked it out of the park!!  Randy, "You were the best singer tonight." Paula, "You're an angel.  Simon,  "...last week I didn't think you were good enough make the finals. I must apologize. I was wrong. Tonight you just wiped the floor with Blake on that song!!!"   Then the judges concluded, "They're all winners!"  Yes, they are!!

Then, surprise, Chris Daughtry appeared and sang the closing song, "Home".  There was no word about the finale  stars, so there is still hope that Kat may appear at the finale!!!!!
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Jordin certainly wasn't immune from pitch issues either.
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05/22/2007 9:48 PM Alert 
I thought he said it was better than the original, which i took to mean the original performer.

I wouldn't say anybody took a dive any more than anyone did last year. Blake was just... Blake. Even cortisone wouldn't have helped.
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Posted By groucho on 05/22/2007 9:48 PM
I thought he said it was better than the original, which i took to mean the original performer.

I wouldn't say anybody took a dive any more than anyone did last year. Blake was just... Blake. Even cortisone wouldn't have helped.


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05/22/2007 10:37 PM Alert 
to be honest, it was another boring night for Idol. Both weren't that great. Both were boring. Oh how i miss Katharine and the like. Ah well, give it up to Jordin. She won. The show did seem a bit biased towards Jordin tho, as if they wanted her to win. But, I won't comment on that anymore and start a tizzie with some people. They won, i lost. At least my boy ended up 2nd.
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Posted By groucho on 05/22/2007 9:48 PM
I thought he said it was better than the original, which i took to mean the original performer.

I wouldn't say anybody took a dive any more than anyone did last year. Blake was just... Blake. Even cortisone wouldn't have helped.



Yeah, but earplugs may have!

 

Sorry, take this from the crusty, jaded old soul I am.... I wasn't too impressed with the show in general.  Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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05/22/2007 10:46 PM Alert 
i expected this to be the best finale ever! Cuz i love both of them; instead, it was the worst, most boring finale ever.

VERY zzzzzzzzzzzz
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05/22/2007 11:18 PM Alert 
Seeing Chris just upset me soooo much. I mean I LOVE him - he's talented as well as being verrrrrry appealing but it just upsets me sooooo much that they're dissing Katharine. I hope she goes on to be a super super star. She can do it without them - I know she can. I also hope that all the Kat haters aren't the problem. If I live to be a hundred years old, I'll still never understand why or how anyone could hate Kat when she's so sweet and nice and super talented and funny and just downright wonderful. Okay, I'm through for tonight.
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yeah, i'm pissed too......

not at Jordin or Blake - at the damn judges and their 'flip-flopping' and inconsistent judging which makes absolutely no sense....

If it's a SINGING competition as they CLAIM - then how in the hell did Taylor win last year?  (sorry Taylor fans) - but he CANNOT sing - yet they pushed him and pushed him....nothing but "pitch" problems for Kat and here's this raspy old goat that sounds like he just got out of a kareoke bar  - "ya da bomb, Taylor" you should win this.....

We're back to square ONE (of where we were last year) - yes, Blake took a dive - GOOD FOR HIM - who the hell wants to be stuck in a 7year idol contract singing songs like they made him sing tonight....his record will sell the most.  As for Jordin - GOOD FOR HER - she has the best voice I've heard since....well, since Kat. And yes - IT IS A SINGING competition so she deserves to win.....what ashame they didn't listen to their own advice last year......

If Kat's not on tomorrow and we find out it's because she wasn't invited (but wanted to go) - then hell hath no fury like a Kat Phan scorned!!!

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05/22/2007 11:36 PM Alert 
i thought jordin was absolutely brilliant and blake was...well how he has been the whole season.. beat boxing or not great singing. but i do respect him for how he has opened up the show even more to more genres and talent in the US. it was a fun finale. go jordin. im voting right now.
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05/23/2007 12:11 AM Alert 
Am I the only one here who actually enjoyed Taylor? I liked his Michael McDonald/Joe Cocker sound. And I have never begrudged him the title, honestly. I think Katharine got everything she could have from the show, tons of exposure and publicity, and she couldn't have asked for more. I am tickled silly she got all the way (and Top Two is all the way). I really didn't much care for Taylor's take on ballads, for the most part, and the ones the judges loved the most frequently left me way behind, but I thought he just rocked hell out of some of the other stuff. Maybe I'm just an old hillbilly at heart. You can take the Hoosier out of Indiana, etc.
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05/23/2007 12:58 AM Alert 
My apologies if I didn't read the other posts but I just had to respond to this right away. I don't think Blake took a dive, I think the producers or whoever runs the show, I think they manipulated the show tonight so that Jordin would do better than Blake. Now I do like Jordin but I also like Blake. I thought that Blake got robbed on his Final song because that song was more meant for Jordin's voice then it was for Blake's voice. This is why Jordin blew it out of the park tonight singing it. I think even if Blake did try, which I believe he did, he still wouldn't have been able to sing the song well because it was not suited for his voice. I just felt that Jordin got a slight advantage there and it really wasn't fair towards Blake. Blake should have been allowed to sing a different song as his Final one. Doesn't matter now though does it? I think they both deserve to be there and whoever wins, so be it, I'll be happy with either one.
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05/23/2007 1:50 AM Alert 
Blake's

3rd song:
He did not take a dive purposely. He was doing fine at the beginning then suddenly, he sounded detached or disconnected from the song. Simon interpreted it as him not feeling the song because it was not his kind of song. Unfortunately, he hinted frustration in his deameanor. On top of that, he was off key in a couple of notes in the middle of the song and he caught it. From then on, he didn't try to make up for the mistake. He gave it away with a "so what" attitude. But then, again, this might have been the best he could have done with the song. He blew this one for sure, and so, he wouldn't win. To me, it was clear that he lacks the power, range, and artistry of being a vocalist. Because the song was new, he was not feeling it too well to sing it. He sounded as if he was still in rehearsal. No such kind of singer must win american idol. It was almost like a joke to me listening to him sing it the way he did.

But the judges were just too lenient with Blake. They didn't mention the pitch problem and how terrible the song really sounded from him. Even Blake could not take what Simon said "that there was talent in Seattle." Blake said, "that's the first time he's lied". Blake knew he blew it but Simon would not announce it as such. Randy's comments were appropriate and believable, I thought. Paula's, however, were just praises.

This is what I'm talking about. People vote for performers even if they know the contestant lacks the vocal ability, power, range, and artistry. AI is a singing competition, and I'm glad the judges affirmed that on the show tonight. People mistake musical performers as musical contenders in a singing competition. Voters should realize that there are clearly good vocalists in the contest who do not deserve to be voted off.

2nd song (Maroon 5): weak vocals, safe song choice, forgettable performance.
1st song (Bon Jovi): Excellent performance, good vocals.




Jordin's

3rd song (ORIGINAL COMPOSITION--"This Is My Now"):
This song defined Jordin in a different light. I felt so proud of her singing this song. She sang it like she has sung it many times before. Perfect for her voice and she went for it with full confidence. She interpreted it like a seasoned pro. For a moment I got lost thinking I was watching a concert by a professional recording artist. For the first time I was blown away, I don't know what to say but  WOW. There's really no contest at all from Blake's side that he could put up against Jordin. Jordin is the american idol winner this year. No top 2 finalist should ever screw up the designated "winner's song" of the night. This song will be released as the first single, and I'm so happy Jordin nailed it!

2nd song (A BROKEN WING):
A Broken Wing was sung better than the first time she sang it, actually. Her range is incredibly impressive. I think Randy meant that too. I don't think he meant that Jordin has sung it better than Martina has. This was already a winner as it is. Excellent choice and stunning, stellar, flawless performance indeed.

1st song (FIGHTER):
I was even more blown away by this song, actually. She took Aguilera with so much confidence. For the first time, I heard her big voice come out very beautifully and artistically. Contrary to what the judges felt about this song, I find it really good and convincing that Jordin is at the level where Christina is. They would not just easily acknowledge it  because of some fanatic reasons of loyalty maybe to CA. But I saw and felt her greatness as a singer tonight, and I've never felt this way before about her singing. She must have really won me over to have said all these wonderful things. Of course I wanted her to win, especially after Melinda was booted. I always believed her to be a prodigious child. But tonight, with high respect, I saw and heard a full grown woman singing, not a child. BRAVO!

(Btw, in medicine/pediatrics, 19 year-olds are still considered children.)
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oh mattsie, Jordin was not THAT great. Perhaps in your personal opinion she was, but to me, she had her flaws. I think the whole show stunk. Both her and Blake. There was nothing special about any of it. But then a